I don't like this trade but Olshey has been about Gordon for so long. Maybe he thinks he's worth the guy we just traded Ariza and two firsts for and happens to be our best defender.
first off, you mean 2027, not 2017. Although, the 2017 pick was Zach so maybe Portland will trade their 2017 pick and from what I have read, Portland can trade the pick conditionally. The wording would be '2 years after the Houston pick conveys; if not traded by 2027, Orlando gets a 2nd round pick. As far as I know, those are legal conditions. Of course, that means the pick doesn't deliver much leverage
I just don't think you get out of Aaron Gordon what you are getting from RoCo right now. Doesn't seem like a move I would make. I really like RoCo. He has been a game changer in a number of game this year. And now he is shooting over 36% from 3.
You caught be on the 2017 thing but if we convey our 2027 second rounder to Houston then we are talking about a 2028 second rounder gong to Orlando which is not legal. I can't remember which poster was saying trading any first is illegal right now but when I looked up our conditions with Houston and and then at how strict the CBA is about the years out you can trade a pick, I was convinced that we have to get Houston to agree to this year's pick no longer being conditional which is exactly what we would do if we needed to convey a future pick in a trade, not put illegal and/or complicated conditions on it.
I wouldn't do it either. I was just saying that the rumors for a few years now have been that Olshey wants Gordon. So if he does overvalue Gordon, I could see this move going down. Maybe Neil is detached enough to figure that our defense sucks with RoCo so why not completely sell out for offense. Who knows with this current Olshey/Stotts debacle.
you may be right but I'm not sure the 7 year restriction applies to 2nd round picks. It might....I just haven't read that anywhere. I guess if it does not apply, by the time Olshey is fired he'll have traded every 2nd round pick till 2137
Cmon Olshey and Jody, don’t be cheap now. Help Dame at all cost. Pay for the taxes too if you have too. Get him Help Now!!!!
Right. I think i can get not going to tax this yr. Its inevitable next yr and we dont want to be a repeater
If I'm trading for Gordon and MCW. I would rather trade, Trent, Jones and Hood. I don't think we can keep Jones and Trent next year anyway.
Trent/Hood/Jones for Gordon/Filler would be my guess. Dame/Simons CJ RoCo/Nas Gordon/Melo/Collins Nurk/Kanter/Giles Definitely need some backcourt help coming back.
Gordon isn't worth trading Trent and Jones (Hood is meh) for. I don't get why fans think he's anything great. His stats do not back up the worth you guys think he is. It creates a HUGE hole in the backcourt, for a minor improvement at the 4 spot.
I think if Neil has already made that determination about Gary then this would be the trade to make. Obviously the DJ situation is his decision. I doubt anyone will give him better than the mid level this off season but he might opt out because of fit. If we do that trade the numbers are really close between the prorated vet min and our money available before the luxury tax apron. So I would assume we would either have just enough to sign someone from the buyout market or get some G League standout that has never played in the league. I would imagine whoever we pick up will be a wing that's 6'5" or taller and can play the 2 or the 3.
If that filler is MCW he can defend both guard positions at 6'5" and run the offense as a legit facilitating backup PG. This all depends on how true the rumors are about Olshey being obsessed with Gordon and if he's decided that he needs to move Gary. If these two things are true, he'd definitely give up DJ, Hoodie and Gary for what he would consider a huge upgrade in the starting lineup. Also does it really kill our bench? MCW, Ant, Nas, Melo, Enes... Ant would probably struggle to get consistent playing time in that rotation. Then we still have Giles, Elleby and Blevins that would never see the floor. I'm pretty sure we would have enough money left over for a buyout vet but I'm not positive, that's really close. If we don't we'll for sure pick up some G League star and that worked out pretty well for Miami.
MCW can't shoot for shit. thing is, Gordon isn't a huge upgrade. He's a dunker and that is what most people outside of Orlando think of him, and thus he's exciting and an 'improvement'.
I just watched the Orlando-Knicks game. He is no difference-maker. But he can do more than just dunk. (7 assists)
