Blazers last in the league in defense

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    When we already have a negative point differential, putting up 7 less points against a good defense is pretty substantial.
     
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    Yes, I'd say both Dame and our offense have an achilles heel.
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    To follow up

    PTS/G: 115.0 (7th of 30) Opp PTS/G: 115.2 (27th of 30)

    So if we average 108 on offense against good defensive teams, and we average 115.2 points on defense, we are squarely averaging a loss when we play opponents that can counter Dame.
     
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    I guess the witch died
     
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    Sacramento is doing their best to prevent us from grabbing the 30th spot in defensive rating. They gave up 154 points to the Jazz tonight without Mitchell and Conley!
     
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    In the left-side box, you can choose which group of opponent teams you want.

    http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketbal...zers/players/damian-lillard/profile/21/25/410
     
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    Almost exactly the reverse now - we're 3-7 but thanks to the two blowouts, we've got better stats than the opponents:
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    I dont even understand this. Bunch of really good players on this graphic. Towns, Russell and Edwards are here, I would take any of them
     
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    It is saying that there are 166 3-man groupings that have a very good offensive rating (118 or higher).

    Of that set, there are 3 groupings that are SO terrible at defense - that they STILL have a negative net rating. These guys give up more points to the opponent than they score.
    Portland (Dame, Kanter, Little)
    Dallas
    & Minny
     
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    So how often do you see a combination of Dame, Kanter and Little on the court together when the Blazers are healthy?
     
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    ~190 minutes on the year
     
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    I will say, though, there seems to be an awful lot of "noise" in that stat. I'm going off of BBRef, and their #s and NBA.com seem to differ slightly in net rating stuff, but regardless, Little, Lillard, Kanter is a net negative 3 man lineup, but Little, Kanter, Anthony is a net positive. By a larger margin. Which seems...unexpected. 3 man samples maybe not a great view.
    Stretching it to 4 man samples, Lillard, Little, Kanter, Anthony has a net positive rating, but Little, Lillard, Kanter, Trent was negative.
     
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    Neither Damian or Kanter ever pass to Nas so it's not surprising.
     
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    Nothing much is unexpected with a 160 minute sample.
     
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    I'm looking at bbref and I don't see Little in any of the three man lineup, but all I see is the top-20. Is there a way to expand that?

    and yeah, I think there's some noise in there. Pretty small sample size and too many varaiables
     
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    go by individual player, and look at their lineup pages.
     
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    How many days during this season have the Blazers actually been last in defense?
     
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    thanks
     
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