Notice Chauncey Billups new Portland Trail Blazers head coach

Dang, where is Tommy Chong when ya need him?

 

he never left...

 

Here's the problem.... we don't know if it happened, and we'll never know. So the real question we all have to ask ourselves is whether we can live with having a coach with that giant question over their head? But I want people to stop throwing things like "second chance" around because we don't know for sure if he did it in the first place, and the guy has clearly already had a second chance and by all accounts has had no further issues.

He settled. He went on with his life. He hasn't committed any further crimes and has been an upstanding citizen.

 

That's up to each person, and that's cool. It's okay to discuss this--Billups deserves to still be part of society and be hired for jobs, but there's no societal moral or ethical rule that suggests that he and the incident that he was purported to be involved with can't be talked about.

It seems like some people are outraged that this is even a topic of discussion.

 

Because it's not as black and white as he did it or he didn't do it.

There are people who feel like 20 years is enough time to let something go.

There are people who feel like just the mere implication that he would be involved in something like this is enough to disqualify him from the job.

I personally think that the dude knows what happened that night, and he didn't speak up, so that makes him guilty. Either of rape or of being involved in said rape in one capacity or another.

 

God I feel like Trump is back. The drama and digging heels in and all that. It was a fun few months I guess. Now we can all enjoy the drama of the new coach.

 

I get that. I'm not criticizing a particular view of this, I would just caution people not to try to shut down conversation. Not that anyone can, but acting like discussion about the rape accusation is itself an affront is going a bit too far, to me.

I'm here to validate you and tell you that I consider that an entirely reasonable opinion.

 

Trump was easier. He never denied anything lol

He was a piece of shit and he knew he was a piece of shit and for some reason his supporters loved him for it because he "pwned the libs."

 

lol never denied anything? He couldn’t even admit he lost an election.

and didn’t billups say it was consensual? I’d say that’s denying it.

 

Brett Kavanaugh was a rapist. Chauncey, OTOH, was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

You don't know that, just as we don't know if he did it either.

 

Woj just talked about it, Portland did their homework on the case, Billups addressed it with them, and they are moving on with a deal to make him the next coach in a nutshell.

 

His story could easily make sense if circumstances paint a grim picture on an otherwise consensual encounter. Let's say it was all consensual, but admitting to taking part in a train would still lead to serious aspersions and innuendo despite what could very possibly be totally innocent behavior given consent had taken place. Perhaps one lie(hers) beget another(his) in order for him to distance himself entirely. That's an easily plausible scenario. Other scenarios include sex that was consensual but was more rough than she wanted but for her part she was too afraid to speak out. That fear is no none else's responsibility and it's incumbent upon people in a sexual encounter to speak up for themselves. This movement towards affirmative consent is recent and hamfisted understanding of sexual dynamics, so only retconning pieces of shit would analyze it from that perspective. Of course, she could well have been raped against her protestations. There is an entire spectrum of plausible scenarios that could portray either side as guilty, or both as guilty and to varying degrees of severity.

Him settling doesn't necessarily mean shit in the context or severity of guilt and you should know better.


That statistic is incredibly misleading. These are simply cases proven to be false, not thrown out for lack of evidence which is the vast majority of cases. We don't know how many cases are actually false accusations. This case for example, why do you even bring up that statistic given this case was never pursued, and therefore isn't included in that statistical analysis.

 

Realistically how do you confirm that there was nothing to this?

 

Probably not going to be a popular opinion…

but thank god.

Say what you want about Billups as a coach, but it’s clear that the Blazers did their research and hired the best coach *all parties* thought was available.

would’ve been really annoying if we lost a coach due to public opinion

 

His tweets are annoyingly vague lately.

 

speaks to the general arrogance/ignorance of certain individuals to even assume that it wasn’t brought up and vetted by the multiple companies that have employed him in the past 20+ years.