Notice Chauncey Billups new Portland Trail Blazers head coach

It says no one was contacted and no information by any parties that would have known anything were released to the "ex-FBI" agent that did the investigation, which implies no real investigation was done.

This was Quick:

How do you re-interview witnesses and watch tapes of past interviews when you don't even contact the witnesses? When you can't get the tapes from the police department? They didn't even contact the DA that is adamantly supporting Billups, of all people!

Just put two and two together.

 

It's very possible you're right. But, what I think happened is more likely. Olshey hired a firm to do a "thorough investigation", the firm told Olshey it did a "thorough investigation", and he told the press that a "thorough investigation" was done.

 

see my post just above.

 

sure...that's why I said it's common. Almost every large organization will have a hiring process, and often, the process is just window dressing, dotting i's and crossing t's, so as to award the job to the person it was always going to be awarded to anyway

maybe Billups was the best candidate. I don't know, one way or the other. He certainly had the least coaching experience among several potential candidates. And a lot of those other candidates don't have the personal baggage that Billups does, even if the baggage was vague and 24 years old. This situation could have been avoided with a different choice. Then, like many here are calling for, we could be busy fighting about the actual coaching credentials of the new coach instead of a 24 year old settlement obscured by NDA's, an apparent sham investigation, and the snake oil oozing out of the GM's office

 

For sure, so any investigator worth anything would have contacted her lawyer and her lawyer didn't get contacted and seems pretty upset about that. So we just didn't do even close to a good enough investigation, let alone a thorough one.

Now, I assume that an actual thorough investigation would have showed that there was no evidence that would forgo Chauncey's presumption of innocence. So it would have come down to a he said she said from over 20 years ago since Chauncey said he was sticking with his original statement. Given what all of the actual thorough investigations of the reporters have found, I don't think anything we've seen would have been enough to deny Chauncey the opportunity at the job.

The problem is the part where I said assume. The team shouldn't have to assume because Neil said they did a thorough investigation and to take his word for it but they were just assuming because they did not do a thorough investigation. So I know this really doesn't have anything to do with the victim but instead of Chauncey's character being indicted by this process, Olshey's has been.

 

Really? That’s your conclusion? I think that’s about as likely as Olshey admitting he made a wrong draft pick.

 

lol

 

This is starting to play out like a nightmare scenario.

If the team would have simply fired Neil after the season, we could have started fresh and proven to Dame that we were serious about winning. Unfortunately we kept Neil, he completely bungled the way that Billups was hired, and if they fire Neil now we're going to be in an extremely weak position to make any moves this offseason.

This could drastically affect our ability to keep Norm and Dame. Our team looks like it's in complete disarray right now.

 

I don't think they did a better investigation from in house people because the DA's office, former DA and the attorney of the alleged victim all said that no one contacted them regarding the case/allegation. So to me it looks like negligence all around or that Vulcan trusted Olshey with this and he was the only one who shit the bed... which honestly would be a second layer of insulation. The big problem with all of this is not as much that the investigation wasn't thorough, it is that Olshey asked everyone to take his word for it that it was thorough and that he took it seriously because some things are bigger than basketball.

No matter how you cut it it's a clusterfuck for Olshey.

 

The problem is that when Olshey said that the firm was proprietary information... he then should have said that the firm assured him that they did a thorough investigation. Then that puts the onus back on the firm. Instead Olshey vouched for the investigation being thorough and told everyone, not to take the word of the firm he hired but his own word for it. Olshey made himself culpable if the investigation wasn't thorough. The investigation wasn't and Olshey is most definitely on the hook.

 

agreed 100%.
He shouldn't have thrown Stotts under the bus.
He should have put the onus on firm he hired.
He shouldn't have said "trust us"
He shouldn't have said that we were going to run it back (pissing Dame off).
However, I do think Billups is a great pickup, and it will pay dividends.

Neil is usually very professional. He is rattled this offseason. Hopefully, he gets back on track in actual basketball-related matters. The first one (hiring Billups) was great.

 

I like the Billups hire and I want Neil out now. I actually think it's going to happen this time. You don't get to fuck up all of the things you just listed, nail the one other thing you listed and skate. That's the way it can work with some things but right now he's created a PR nightmare for the team but it's actually not a nightmare if they fire him because he's put it all on himself.

 

Do you think firing Neil at this point would be a good idea? We're so close to the draft and free agency. There's no way they could hire a replacement quickly. Also, what would happen to Billups? They fire Neil and keep Billups?

 

there are other reasons for him to get fired, but this isnt one of them

id keep him in spite of the imbeciles that wont let this thing go, just let them know that street cant run the franchise... fuck them

 

I don’t understand. Great off season, how? He’s done right?
The talent on the team wasn’t the problem, the COACHING was right?
I’m confused.

 

You mean like for the past 2 years, regardless of thread topic……be it about NASA, the playoff race or Trump, all you’d get was the same 10 people screaming #FireStotts.
Ya, that would suck.

 

unless he has deals lined up and has tampered with agents, etc, i don't see how it could hurt. I'm under the impression we will do nothing significant in the draft anyway.