Zombie Fire Olshey

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Fez Hammersticks, Dec 26, 2016.

  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    doesn't fit his narrative.
     
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    what was the word? nearly?...I honestly don't remember. I didn't cherry pick, at least not intentionally

    I know I praised the RoCo addition (thought two 1st's was a high price) but condemned the Jones signing. Neutral on Giles. I was fine with Kanter. It was certainly a better off-season than the previous one. But still, I thought the roster was nowhere close to being a contender. It was basically, more rinse/repeat so I wouldn't praise that

    and again...what difference does it make if a bunch of fans and yakking-heads thought it was a great off-season? What counts, expectations or results? Is Dame's attitude right now informed by September predictions or June's playoff record
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Wasn't just the fans






     
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    Did you honestly say that Portland has a "Relaxed Media"?
    I'm not sure I agree with you there? Maybe some are relaxed because of the dispensaries but this town needs another pro team to report on.

    I agree with your overall point though. He should sell the city better.
     
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    well, congratulations....you've made a list of people wrong about the team
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    there is a fishbowl effect, yes.

    but the media is largely tame compared to the sharks in NY/LA whose sole goal in their jobs is to get people to trip up while writing gossip columns. Look at this Philly column on Simmons' bday yesterday
     
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    having lived in major cities the majority of my life, Portland media is nothing comparatively speaking. There’s only one Clownzano in Portland. In LA multiply that by 10. Hope the Blazers players appreciate how good they have it.
     
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    no, im only showing you that the story on Olshey changed pretty damn quickly over the past few months, while disputing your claim that the praise for him came only from "a bunch of fans. It's OK to admit a mistake in here, btw. Not sure why people are so hellbent on claiming they're always right.

    Many people thought we had a good offseason. This year, that story is completely forgotten.
     
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    I added the last part as an edit.
    I do agree with you that he should sell the city/team/players/organization better.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Doing a commercial and actually sitting across from someone and trying to sell them something are two completely different things. It's not the same world. It's not the same solar system. It's not even the same universe.
     
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    Do you think they insure his soul. Because after last night his soul is broken and they are going to have to pay out. Unless of course...it was an act of God.

    Or maybe they have an act of Foster clause
     
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    Olshey's record as Portland's GM didn't start a year ago. It started in 2012 and there has been an accrual of moves and decisions that have informed the attitudes of people paying any attention. Besides that, I think Olshey was being graded on a deceptive curve last summer aftter the previous year when he added Bazemore, Tolliver, and Hezonja. I actually saw some people praise those moves. Sure, not as much as lst summer, but when you're wrong, you're wrong

    and just so you know, I don't really see any distinction between Steven A Smith, Rachel Nichols, and fans. I don't really see a higher level of expertise in the talking heads. Most of them any way
     
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    yeeeeesh....it was a joke NB
     
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    Be funnier!
     
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    In comparison to his history, it was one if Neil's best off seasons. I think the team was improved from the prior year.

    The issue is that despite being a good off season, it's nowhere near what was needed to turn the team into a contender
     
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    So much this. Even then, Olshey raved about the pick that was acquired much more than he seemed overyly hyped about Nurk.
    Then Nurk went 'Nurk Fever' for a short stint and it seemed like we really might have something on our hands.

    Haven't seen Nurk Fever since.
     
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    Maybe it was more scheme than personnel?
     
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    Nurk the rest of the season in Portland after the trade

    21.1 PER
    .545 TS %
    19.7 REB %
    17.7 AST %
    .116 WS/48
    -0.4 OBPM
    1.4 DBPM
    0.9 BPM

    Nurk this season

    21 PER
    .554 TS
    20.2 REB %
    21.4 AST %
    .133 WS/48
    0.3 OBPM
    1.7 DBPM
    2.0 BPM

    Next time open your eyes.
     
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    what is your point?...I honestly don't understand it

    the roster that was getting A-pluses in a survey of posters here ended up the 6th seed and a 1st round exit against an injured team. Does Olshey, and his roster, get gauged by pre-season guesses about it's quality or by what it accomplished?
     

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