If CJ were to be traded, who are we most likely to get?

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    Portland was a 5th seed in 2015-16
    8th seed in 2016-17 (and got swept by the warriors)
    3rd seed in 2017-18 (and got swept by the Pels)
    3rd seed in 2018-19 (WCF)
    8th seed in 2019-20
    6th seed in 2020-21

    I'm seeing fairly normal variance for a decent team with a top-10 player and no shot at a championship. 1st round exits in 4 of the last 5 seasons while posting a 3-16 record in those 4 series. And if you squint your eyes and wish really hard, the closest the team came to contention will be 3 seasons ago...and that team got swept out of the WCF

    Portland is not closer now unless you imagine Olshey pulling about 3 giant rabbits out of his hat this off-season
     
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    what tells you that....Jason Quick's conjecture?
     
  3. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Are you saying GM's aren't offering high 1st round picks for CJ?
     
  4. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I think he's saying that whether they are or not, we have no legitimate reason to believe that they are.
     
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    That's crazy talk!
     
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    Seriously: I do not believe that the Cavs would offer us the #3 for CJ, even if we have to take Love.

    BUT IF THEY DID, I think we HAVE to take it. If Evan Mobley is there, he could absolutely transform our defense. I think we're actually a better team RIGHT AWAY if we do that, and I'm something of a CJ fan (at least by this board's standards).
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Could potentially. He may be great, he may be a bust, or something in between. That's the Draft, & high picks in a nutshell. But if the Blazers do get Simmons, you know HE WILL transform the defense. He's a proven talent.
     
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    Sure, but the Blazers aren't getting Simmons for CJ. They just aren't.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    You have inside info? Sources.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I just really don't think that the rumor about the top 4 pick is real. I think it's more smoke. I think Neil is trying to pump up CJ's value.
     
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    Fucking Olshey. I hate him. Zero creativity
     
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    I'm saying I don't know but I'm certainly very skeptical of Quick's implied Cleveland #3 for CJ. Isn't that the only "high pick" that Quick talked about? I haven't heard of any others. And while Quick has improved in his writing lately, I've never been impressed with his speculations, especially about player value (he thought Meyers was worth 15M/year)

    now, if you have any other info besides Quick on any picks, at all, being offered for CJ, I'm interested
     
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    I will eat my Sabonis T-Shirt if Philly does that trade. And I LOVE my Sabonis T-Shirt.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    What kind of sauce will you be adding.
     
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    Some Radio commentators think Houston might give up their pick as they don't want to wait for ever to be a contender as fans in Houston want it now.
    They have a few solid players they could couple with CJ and if healthy make some noise, maybe?
     
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    In case anyone is interested...

    Good news/bad news from a 3rd-hand source (not a joke, but obviously take all of this with a healthy grain of salt):

    Good news: A staffer of another team (not PDX or PHI) says the CJ for Simmons talks are a thing (and not just made up in Blazer fans' heads); secondary good news -- thinks Simmons can and will break out of his slump if he can land somewhere where he can get downhill in a non-clogged paint -- that the fit issue with Embiid was a real thing and really got in his head.

    Bad news (my commentary): Our current C is no better fit (arguably worse) than Embiid in that dept.

    Again, take it for what it's worth...
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    If it happens. I'd seriously try to move Nurk, but my guess is that Neil would wait till the deadline to see how the fit works.

    Nurk for Larry Nancy Jr. or Chris Boucher. Something like that.
     
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    This is encouraging. Thanks for passing along.

    Moving Nurk on his 12 mil/yr expiring contract should not be difficult. We can potentially find a floor spacing C fairly easily in FA (Olynyk/Ibaka/hell even Collins/etc).
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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