Zombie Damian Lillard to request trade in coming days (nope, he's not.)

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  1. SlyPokerCat

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    I mean, if that happens and we don't just blow up the team and get young guys to grow with. I probably watch a lot less next year. Sorry. Mediocrity with no chance of winning isn't my thing anymore. I'm not getting younger and I want to see a title in Portland before I die. Losing Powell would be a huge set back to the team.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Check the comments--they're also talking about the W's dealing Wiseman, picks and filler for Sabonis. Can you imagine a Curry/(Healthy) Klay/Wiggins/Green/Sabonis lineup??
     
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    If you want to see a championship, in my honest opinion, blowing it up is the best chance. The ridiculous haul they could get for Damian, CJ and Nurkic would put them on a track that at least would put them in a position to draft stars. I don’t see any way to keep Damian and add enough talent to overtake several teams in the west and a few in the east during Lillards career.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I’m honestly starting to lean that way. If you can get a top 4 pick for CJ, not sure if that’s actually true, but if you could….. you deal Dame for a big haul and start over. You could get a legit couple of potential superstars.
     
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    Ripcity4life77 Well-Known Member

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    You act like starting over is so easy and there is not a guarantee that any of the Blazers would draft would be good so it's a huge gamble that is not worth it . How would you feel if the blazers went from a certain playoff team to being OUT of the playoffs for 5 plus years in a row cause once you go into rebuilding road it can be hard to get out of it. It's for this reason it should be the ABSOLUTE last option to take and should be avoided for as long as possible plain and simple.
     
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    Because it’s how you get superstars. It’s how they got Lillard. They don’t have enough assets to get enough in return to be a contender in my opinion. Even IF somehow CJ + got them a better player back, then what? They aren’t matching Steph/Klay/Dray/wiseman or Kawhi/PG or Lebron/AD and whoever they add, or the Bucks or Nets and so on. They might - might be near Denver. What about Utah? So the option is just ride it out which should be super enjoyable around here, or get a clean slate and go after studs in the draft. We know how free agency works here.
     
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    Ripcity4life77 Well-Known Member

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    Did you miss the playoffs where Milwaukee only has 1 mega star and a Star and a bunch of good players and they just WON the whole thing now granted in the WEST it is much harder but it could be done. If some of you fans just want to throw in the towel and have this defeatist attitude then whatever but it's sad.

    I will admit NeO has a mixed bag in results but I am not totally sold that he should get all the blame he does but we are getting to the point where it's time to PUT UP or be Fired for NeO. He has a near impossible mission but I do think there is a chance he could pull it off cause there are a few stupid teams ( GM's ) out there that cannot help themselves but screw it up -- Cav's / Kings / Wolves etc so there should be some hope even if it might be low in odds.
     
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    Phoenix was out of the playoffs for ten years!
    Minnesota and Sac have been laggards constantly rebuilding.
    We have Dame & Chauncey plus some decent role players, now we chip away and add more and more.
    Dame has a desire to it hear so lets see if he Chauncey can get the synergy going!
    Rip City
     
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    Philly did this and they wound up with Simmons and Embiid and have never made the ECF despite getting the #1 seed. And now they want to get rid of Simmons. We already have a legit superstar. Need to build a better team around him. We can do it.
     
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    They messed it up by taking fultz.
     
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    Hahaha. This guy, how anyone thinks trading Dame now for the long haul is good. Smh
     
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    The process was widely bashed, there is wayyyy more examples of teams going that route and still being in the gutter years later than Philly and the process. That was an rare instance.

    Trading Dame isn't an intelligent option
     
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    Yep. And Nerlens Noel. And Okafor. They had several cracks at it and all they have is a flawed Simmons and an oft injured Embiid. Hasn't gotten them to ECF. I wonder if they hold onto to Jrue Holiday and not go The Process route. I can't imagine they'd do any worse.
     
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    How do small market teams get stars? How did we get lillard? Through the draft? Imagine we drafted well and had three consecutive top 10 picks to grab three high level players.

    That's how a small market team CAN win.

    The process is more likely to get us a championship than neil running it back with the same team.

    No need to name call.
     
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    Is Dame not 31?

    Age is undefeated last time I checked.

    Either go all in and trade our picks to bring in a star. Or blow it up.

    Stop with this treadmill non contender bullshit we have been doing.
     
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    Get a better scout team. The point is they had opportunities. Better than us running it back so we can maybe get to the 2nd round if we are lucky.
     
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    The clock is ticking. At this point, the chances of building a contender around Dame is slim to none. But if you trade Dame for a massive haul, and get a top 3 pick, you are set up for a very bright future. The alternative is you hold onto Dame for another four years, don't do anything significant, and now you're starting at square one.

    We could get quite a bit of value out of Dame, CJ, Nurk, and Norm (sign and trade).
     
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    Yeah, i mean, i don't want to trade Dame. Love watching him play. But i'm sick of being a treadmill team. Get him a KAT, Jimmy Butler, Paul George whoever sidekick or start over. None of this run it back bullshit.
     
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    Let's say the rumor isn't bullshit and you can trade CJ for the #3. You get Mobley and then you trade Dame to Boston for Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown and picks. At that point you could either move Roco and Nurk to another team like Golden State, or keep them and you actually have a pretty formidable starting lineup.

    Smart
    Brown
    RoCo
    Mobley
    Nurk

    Brown is legit and Mobley is supposed to be AD 2.0. There's just a much brighter future if you blow it up at this point.
     
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    But... now that is not the ONLY way a small market team can win...what about Bucks? They just made a bunch of trades to fill better players around him. What about the 2000 Blazers that made it to the WCF that was built on a offseason of trades?

    The route you are going talking about is the worse out of all, ya you want to trade away our franchise best player who gives us the best chance to win a ring, to rebuild lol.
    Players like Dame don’t come around often and players that are loyal to Portland and actually want to stay never come around lol, for that you try your best to build a championship team around him at all costs.
    The only way you trade him is if he comes out and stays I want out.

    what name calling? Hilarious, seems the mods here have a soft spot for someone
     
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