Rumor What's going on in Portland?

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Give them a better place to go.

    People make this far more complicated than it has to be.
     
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    The better game is how to drive across LA on the freeway and survive...I think you hold the record for the largest homeless camp in the country at over 50 blocks of them last I checked! Bet that's a fun stroll in the evening!
     
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    I only hang in the good parts of town these days. Basically Manhattan Beach/Hermosa Beach and Orange County.
     
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    It's only a matter of time before the blue tarps rise in all those places!
     
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    Holy Shit I just drove around downtown. It looks worse than ever. I cannot believe it. It’s full blown third world country. What the actual fuck are we doing? Is anyone in charge? Goddamn it pisses me off. Figure it out.
     
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    In actual 3rd world countries I've seen, the homeless have all these camps at the garbage dump and spend their days sorting through garbage for hidden treasures and food...problem now is they are moving into the woods and trashing the woods or starting fires...lot of my old fishing spots are now homeless camps filled with garbage...pisses me off...cigarette butts all over the river banks..
     
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    I was put on a greyhound bus when I was 17. I wasn’t actively fleeing.
     
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    That’s literally what they do downtown. It IS a dump. Garbage everywhere. Tent after tent. People naked. And not the naked you want to see. Businesses shuttered. It’s past sad. It’s infuriating
     
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    that really sucks...I'm glad they've cleaned up Eugene but I fear for the BLM land that borders my piece of the woods...
     
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    The answer is simple. The implementation and infrastructure is the difficult ppart.

    But if you say it's not complicated, by all means... go for it. Build it!
     
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    Use dead shopping malls and install tiny houses in the parking lot and apartments in the dead mall.......that's a start...put in a clinic and a laundry..etc...job service center...trade school..help people turn it around. Somebody call Jimmy Carter
     
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    And how long will that take?

    People expect this change in a month or two. It takes years.

    Solution is easy. Implementation is difficult. These are facts.
     
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    Sure.

    If you'll just deflect the $40k per year per homeless person to me I'll get this started on Monday.
     
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    Those prefab one room sheds are lined up in a lot on W 11th for sale for a couple grand each or so...my neighbor justbought one for storage...they are empty right now...people make a buck building them and it takes no time to make one...it's not time...it's resources...I've built kit homes before...they're easy to make...it's basically box building 101...beats a blue tarp all day long..you're not going to get a ranch style 4 bedroom with cable and a hot tub for peanuts...I've had to live out of a suitcase when I was young and freshly divorced...it's not easy...
     
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    The two main camps in the homelessness debate always seem to be “They are just lazy” vs. “They just fell on hard times financially”
    I think in reality those two scenarios make up a very small piece of the puzzle. The true homelessness landscape is one of addiction and mental illness. Most of these people would require treatment and full time care just to live functionally. The solutions you mentioned are good ideas and would cover the tangible, logistical side. Finding a literal army to care for the people in the places you mentioned would be the real challenge. It would take only a week for one of those malls or tiny homes to be trashed, deemed unlivable and condemned. And it’s not because the homeless are animals, it’s because they literally don’t have the skills to maintain any sort of structured environment on their own. I guess what I’m saying is it would take a whole shit load of people, dedicating themselves AND getting payed, to care for the homeless. And that just doesn’t exist right now, unfortunately.
     
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    I took my 15 year old son with me. He was shocked how bad it’s gotten. It just sucks when I was his age we would go down there and walk around and hang out. I’d never let him go now. We walked by someone throwing up, someone changing their clothes, about ten sleeping, at least twenty tents. One. Block.

    Figure it out. Whatever it is, do it. Get them help. Get them out. We have .03% of the population ruining an entire city. What are we doing? Build something and make them live there. If they don’t, arrest them. They either live in housing for them or they live in jail. I don’t care. But get off the streets.
     
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    I passed through Wyoming on a Greyhound bus when I was 17. I was headed for Decatur Alabama. Returned on a Greyhound from I think it was either Huntsville Alabama or Atlanta Georgia. Didn't turn 18 until I returned to Portland and then started college at OSU.
     
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