Notice 2021 draft day picks/moves/speculation thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by illmatic99, Jul 29, 2021.

  1. Mr. Robot

    Mr. Robot Well-Known Member

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    he absolutely is not
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Well if Beal doesn't ask out, at least that kills a scenario that Morey is hoping for.
     
  3. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Or I can just wait for you to cite RPM, like you always do, as the be all-end all.
     
  4. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    they'l have two top 7 picks in recent drafts as their back court. i don't see it.
     
  5. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    irrelevant to the point. @Natebishop3 was intimating that grant missing was the reason they were worse than the year before.

    no, it was murray missing as the main reason.
     
  6. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    They're fucking stupid. I didn't see him signing a 30 year old Plumlee only to attach assets to dump him a year later. Or paying 20M/Year for Grant. Or buying out Griffin and eating all that dead cap.
     
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    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Denver Nuggets winning % 18-19: 0.659
    Denver Nuggets winning % 19-20: 0.630
    Denver Nuggets winning % 20-21: 0.653

    Which season did they have Grant, again?
     
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    I've got an answer for Detroit and making sure we keep Powell. They could even go after John Collins after freeing up that much cap space.
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  9. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    powell also isn't going to a rebuilding situation.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Not really. They were worse before they traded for Gordon. Which prompted them to trade for Gordon. Murray getting hurt later of course tanked their playoff chances, but losing Grant was part of the reason they were forced to make the Gordon trade.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I hope not.
     
  12. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I intimated that he was A reason why they were worse than the year before.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    you also ignored the MAIN reason
     
  14. Rastapopoulos

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    Seems like you have plenty of time on your hands. Maybe you've just checked your fave advanced stats and are a little surprised at how crappy Grant looks.
     
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    I have no fucking clue why I'm talking about Grant so much. I still think we're getting Simmons and if we don't I think we have a good shot at Siakam.
     
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  16. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The amount of evidence you're providing to prove your point is staggering.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Nope.
     
  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Their defense was much much worse..... which Murray would not have helped with.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    His first year in Detroit, Grant's usage went from 18% to 28.5% and his PER was about the same and nearly every other efficiency stat went down. His offensive win shares nearly went down by a half.

    This is not an impact player who you bill as a second star.

    He's a really good role player who I think we can get without giving up our only tradeable asset. I'm finding it hard to believe that people disagree with this assessment. Trading CJ for Grant might make us worse, but it certainly won't make us a contender.
     
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    I was wrong about Giddey, he's at the draft. He was just playing for them in Vegas when we played them.
     

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