Notice Blazers draft Greg Brown!

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Watching those lobs and thinking..... welp..... he can forget about those next season.
     
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    Had the best shuttle time at the combine and a 40 inch vert. Also top 5 biggest hands (along with Watford)

    The tools are there.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Tools are almost always the most important thing. Skill can be gained, as I said when we coulda drafted Giannis and Gobert "You can't teach height, length, and athleticism". Obviously, I'm not saying this guy will come remotely close to those two, just saying Tools are absolutely critical. A 5'8" guy with god-level skills will never make it in this league.
     
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    Confirmed that Idog1976 is not Damon Stoudamire.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    This guy's a stud. We'll see what happens.

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    Right, I mean who brings only an ounce and a half with them when traveling?! I mean, bring your A-game Damon!
     
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    According to both the things I read:
    Can jump.
    Can't do anything else.
    Super-confident, but doesn't know how to play.
    Worst passer in mock draft history.
    Ranked #44 on the Athletic's big board, so we got him in about the right place!
     
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    Bigger, but arguably less skilled.
     
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    is it me or does he shot like Aminu?
     
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    Well, I guess we know now why we hired so many development coaches already...
     
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    I remember being really impressed with Grant when he was with OKC (years 3-4) and wishing Portland had a do it all wing like that. Few guys are polished enough at 19 to play with the big boys but thats when most come out these days. In that way he seems similar to Kuminga with much better value. In addition to the obvious athleticism, his highlight tape shows some off hand ability both shooting and passing. The form on his J needs some work as he loads up off to the side of his head, thats a real concern. No he probably won't be playing much at first, but if his head is on straight there is a lot to work with.

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    That dunk was so Gangsta

     
  14. illmatic99

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    if we sign him for a deal after the moratorium, let's say 3 yrs, 10 mil. How long before we use his contract in a trade?
     
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    With 1st round picks, I know it's a 30 day wait. But I imagine if we dip into the tax MLE to sign him, it'd be similar to other free agent signings, and not eligible until Dec. 15th, I believe it is.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    3 years / 10 million for a rookie? Just to use as salary filler? Why not just sign Kanter at that point?
     
  17. illmatic99

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    isn't that the going rate for 2nd round picks? maybe 3 yrs, 5 mil?

    im trying to find a 3 mil/yr contract to trade. we have no salary fillers. I knew we couldn't immediately trade Kanter if we signed him with part of our MLE, but as @RR7 points out the same would be true with brown.
     
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    We can S&T Kanter for salary filler
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I don't think a second rounder is getting 3 million a year when a guaranteed contract for pick 30 is around 4 years/5 million.

    Elleby was 800k/1.5M for two years. Trent was 800k/1.5M/1.6M (3 years/4M). Also, like @wizenheimer pointed out, if we wanted to go 3 years for him we would have to dip into our MLE to do so. I would imagine going into the MLE to sign Brown would be a bad sign. It means all the quality guys that we targeted with the tax MLE spurned us.

    If you're looking for a salary filler, I think you'd be looking at Kanter in a S&T. S&T players must have 3 years, but only the first year needs to be guaranteed. Essentially they are just a salary filler at that point. I don't know what Kanter's market would be, but I think he would be open to (and lucky to get) anything higher than the veterans minimum. So if you did have a trade in mind, it would require working things out with both the other team as well as Kanter beforehand, and executing the deal using Kanter as the salary filler. It's been done many times before. I believe Keith Bogans got a nice one year payraise as a S&T salary filler in the BOS/BRK deal that sent Pierce/Garnett to Brooklyn.

    This would require some creativity, foresight and proactiveness from Neil though, so don't expect it to happen.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    but would it not hard cap the team getting him? And we couldn't combine him with others in a S&T i thought?
     
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