Siakam?

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  1. UKRAINEFAN

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    I agree it doesn't make sense for Toronto, but what about the above three way where they trade Boucher to Philly and Siakam to Portland and get Ben Simmons?
     
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    A Philly, TOR, POR, three way trade seems very beneficial for each team. Blazers could get Siakam, TOR could get Simmons, and the 76ers can get a good enough return between both teams. CJ, Boucher, picks, whatever
     
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    Philly wanted Lowry/FVV/Anunoby/4th/multiple future picks for Simmons when they approached Toronto so the idea that they'd do it just for Boucher who they didn't even ask for is probably an impossibility.
     
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    Boucher and CJ and I guess portland could throw in a first round pick also. I think they will end up taking a lot less than they are asking for.
     
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    Portland would give Philly CJ

    TOR would give them Boucher

    Both TOR and POR would give them picks
     
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    Gonna go ahead and admit I do not follow or fully understand advanced basketball statistics so maybe he is average overall. When I watch him play I think he is good defensively.
     
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    If we end up with Siakam for CJ and a future first... I would be ecstatic.

    Dame, Norm, RoCo, Siakam, Nurk, Ant, Nas, DJJ and the taxpayer MLE would be a much better rotation than anything we've put out there around Dame.
     
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    In that case I don't know.
     
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    lol these guys are idiots. do they forget that CJ put up 23 a game on terrific efficiency, and that he's one of the most elite iso scorers in the game?

    they think even CJ+ Nurk for Siakam is not fair for Toronto.

    i thought we were deluded. Toronto fans might be the worst at overrating their players.

     
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    Someone needs to text Neil and let him know. I think he might be busy putting all his eggs in the Otto Porter basket.
     
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    Yeah the fact that he’s only slightly negative could be viewed as a good thing since there are so many dynamic guards in today’s game. He definitely try a lot harder than CJ. There’s only so much you can do as a defender now that even effort goes a long way
     
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    This is technically true, because he's a TERRIBLE defender.
     
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    It's the perfect time to make the call to Philly and TOR after the Sixers were spurned for asking for too much and couldn't find a trade draft night. It's a trade ripe for the picking
     
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    I know. If Neil isn’t being active on the phones non stop he’s an idiot. But in his usual fashion I think he’s being conservative.

    He’s probably sitting back eating Foie Gras at some fancy restaurant waiting to for the calls to start bifurcating in his direction about CJ.

    Cheese dick GM for sure
     
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    Why the fuck should the Sixers get CJ, Boucher and Picks for Ben fucking Simmons after one of the worst playoff performances of all time?
    I wouldn't trade neither CJ nor Boucher for him, not to mention both plus picks... that's crazy!
     
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    Judging a guy solely on a 12 game run would be more crazy... don't you think?
     
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    No, it's money time and he completely folded, as you said, not for one game, for an entire playoffs.
    A guy with such a 'Loser' label isn't worth a package like CJ, Boucher and picks. If you were the gm you'd get fired for this trade
     
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    Isn’t his playoff play kinda why he’s on the trade market to begin with?
     
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    "It's money time"?!? That shit's cheesy. Look at his past stats in "money time" he hasn't always "folded". You are still one hundred percent taking a 12 game sample size out of 275 and making a judgment. It's about as bad of a way to evaluate as there is. You're a prisoner of the moment, plain and simple.
     
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    I actually think it's the fact that him and Embiid don't get along and their games don't fit together at all. I don't think Doc or Embiid would have been so vocal and frankly insulting in their Simmons critique if it was just a 12 game thing for them.
     

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