OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. calvin natt

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    So?
     
  2. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    He stated that vaccinated are not contagious, which is false.
     
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    Actually, I did not state that.
     
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    That is private sector and already occurring. Nothing is preventing that even now. You can't force them to allow her (unless you classify her as a protected minority).

    You can make an exemption on the legal mandate, and there would certainly be one.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    No vaccine passport = no movement. There will be no exceptions if this is enacted.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Can a vaccinated person with a Covid-19 "breakthrough case" infect others?
     
  8. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I'm all for writing these people off. I say, let's quarantine the whole state.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Almost all of the ill were unvaccinated. is that what you meant to say?
    Hey, unless you're part of the Trump cult, you can't argue with facts.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Taking away what rights? The right to infect me? Oh, no, no, no, now they are infringing on my right to live.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    There not as contagious and there is an insignificant percentage that will be hospitalized and an even more insignificant percentage that will die of it.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Yes, but unlikely if they wear a mask indoors or at crowed events outdoors.
     
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    Yes, if they are infected with the Delta variant.
     
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    Bullshit. That's not even on the table. The unvaccinated just will not be able to enter indoor public places.

    Then, once we reach enough vaccinated that we stop seeing pandemic levels of spread we'll be able to go back to normal.

    Just like we just tried with masking, but unfortunately not enough people are vaccinated now that the Delta variant has arrived.
     
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    No, I said what I said.

    A fraction of a percent of the unvaccinated are sick. People are equating being unvaccinated with being sick.
     
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    So naive. Why do you think people are fighting vaccine passports so passionately in Europe? Because they have seen this kind of thing before with the Nazis.
     
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    Again, the unvaccinated are not sick nor are they likely to currently be sick. They are infringing on nothing.

    You want to restrict the rights of a large part of the population to freely move.
     
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    You should consider moving to India...they have lots of unvaccinated people and even more cases of that harmless Delta variant.....dude...unvaccinated people not only get really sick....see Missouri.....many are already dead....don't know what your point is about allowing super spreaders to super spread this shit but if folks don't wake the fuck up it's going to be restrictions for years...not months...the reason we're in this mess now is the Trump....only a few folks will get the sniffles...it'll be gone by the spring response from 2020...I'm sure you could get in on the Euro protests as well....fly over there and battle those Nazi conspirators!
     
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    Again, you are equating the unvaccinated as already being sick and infected, which is incorrect.

    With the Delta variant, the vaccinated can get sick and spread Covid-19. Their symptoms are usually just more mild and they can still be superspreaders.
     
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    the vast majority of hospitalizations for covid are unvaccinated people...they are sick and unvaccinated...you can be a host and be asymptomatic with this shit...it takes a certain quantity to reproduce inside your body to cause infections...if you don't have that many you can be spreading it without knowing it. Covid can live without humans hosting it for long enough to be passed in the air or on an object...you don't know who's hosting it at all...that's what airborne viruses do..all people who are indoors in crowds are super spreaders or potential super spreaders...sorry it's going to fuck up your bachelor party dude...be smart and safe about this stuff
     

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