Norm Powell Contract

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  1. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Well Hollinger just mentioned they can get to the 20M number by stretching Aminu. Like with Detroit, that would give them the chance to give Powell an 4/86 deal.

    On Thad, year after year we see players that can't shoot get played off the floor or played to the detriment of their teams in the playoffs. Even super talented "stars" like Simmons and Westbrook. A Thad/Nurk front court forces one of them to the bench in critical games and that's just not something I think you should do with 2 of your top 5 players. But I guess it doesn't matter too much, both of those variations (Same starting 5 or Same 4 + Thad) are first round exits next year, IMO. So whatever.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Prior to last year, Thad averaged 35% from 3 over the prior 4 seasons. I see no reason why he wouldn't be able to return to that (depending on what Chauncey's offense involves).
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    on almost 4 attempts a game too, so it can be done. His career outside shooting indicate he would be cause spacing issues, but i still remember a few games I watched from him last season when he was dicing up teams on the P&R.

    It's not unlike totally GS playing Iggy and Draymond as "non-shooters." Young's shooting numbers are fairly similar to Iggys (33% at 2.7 attempts a game).
     
  4. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    He averages 1.5 attempts per game on his career. It’s the same as calling Valanciunas a floor spacer.
     
  5. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I don't really think so. I'm coming from the mindset of not wanting to lose Powell for nothing, but want to desperately break up the CJ-Powell 2-3 lineup. No matter what everyone (mainly Olshey) likes to spout about Norm's winsgspan, I do not want him playing on the wing for 30+ mpg and I'm increasingly getting the feeling that the three guard lineup is here to stay.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Iggy and Draymond were not non-shooters during their championship years. Teams always guarded Iggy, and Draymond shot 38% one year. They also clearly struggled a bit once Draymonds shooting started declining. Also they had the two best shooters in NBA history + Kevin Durant. How is this comparable???
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    They always do that
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I don’t either, but I’d rather sign Norm and see if we can parley CJ during the season. I’d rather do that than be married to the Dame-CJ pairing. If you can get an actual star for Norm, sure, but 33 year old Thad Young isn’t it.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I dunno man, trying to talk myself into it more than anything. I agreed in my post that spacing could be an issue. I'm just looking at what we can do with Norm's contract. Don't really want him back if CJ is still here, but don't really want to lose him either :/
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    It just sounds like talking yourself into best case scenario, like when CJ had that extended hot streak in the beginning of the season. Everyone knew it was unsustainable, but as fans we want to believe…
     
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    the injury killed his momentum, I truly think he woulda been an all star this year if he were healthy.

    but his playoffs was a disaster.
     
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    Fwiw:

    CJ in the reg season: 23-5-4 on 58% TS, 21 PER
    Booker in the reg season: 26-4-4 on 59% TS, 19 PER

    We just need Daryl Morey to realize this. :)
     
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    They aren't even in the game...
    Olshey already has him locked up for 4/110m (or 3/83m) deal.
     
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    those numbers are insane. would make him damn hard to trade. I don't think it's that high. Somewhere in the ballpark of 3/70
     
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    I think we're all going to be unpleasantly surprised at how much we're throwing at Norm. Remember Evan Turner?
     
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    But we will never know because of that injury. CJ wasn't the same after coming back, especially on the defensive end. He was throwing it down at the beginning of the season. After injury, no explosiveness at all.
     
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    In 27 games in Portland last year, Powell averaged 17 a game on 58% TS, and a 14 PER. These are fairly in line with his career averages. And his defensive impact is still a question mark within his role as a SF. There were guys on minimums who had similar impact without the counting stats last year.

    Handcuffing ourselves to a deal > $25 mil/yr deal for a guy who produces as much as he does in a role that isn't optimal is idiotic. I too don't want to lose Powell for nothing, but if we're throwing that kind of cash at him, at least try to maximize his impact by trading CJ.
     
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    Signing Norm to a big deal and then not trading CJ is the most Neil Olshian thing that Neil Olshey could do.
     
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    No, selling that as an offseason win is...
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Isn't that just assumed at this point?
     
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