Nope 125% of CJ's contract is 37.5M, so we could trade for Simmons straight up under the 125% +500k rule.
No its +5M if the resulting trade doesn't put us into the luxury tax. But we would be in the luxury tax in that scenario, so it doesn't work. There is different salary matching rules for taxpaying and non-taxpaying teams.
The point was that the $36M would take us (along with incomplete roster charges) above the apron, so that would supersede the 125% matching rule, if we were operating under a hard cap (which, again, we're not likely to do). Just saying it's yet another reason why we shouldn't even be thinking about trying to acquire anyone via S&T.
Depends on when the trade is consummated. If our salary is not above the tax at that point, the non-tax rules would apply.
Taxpaying Scenario — Rule — If a team’s post-trade team salary would exceed the tax level, then a traded player may be replaced in the same transaction by one or more players whose salaries together do not exceed 125% of the pre-trade salary of the traded player plus $100,000. Example (Team A, Taxpayer) — Assume (i) salary cap = $99.093 million, (ii) team salary = $130 million, and (iii) tax level = $119.266 million. Team A seeks to trade an $8 million player. Team A could replace that player in a simultaneous trade with one or more players making $10.1 million. (125% x $8 million, plus $100,000.) Example (Team B, Options) — Make the same assumptions as above, but this time consider the trade from Team B’s perspective. To receive that $8 million player from Team A, Team B could (i) if it’s available, absorb that salary into room, (ii) if it’s available, absorb that player into a pre-existing trade credit (see non-simultaneous examples below), (iii) send out a single player making $10.1 million or less (so that the trade still works from Team A’s perspective), or (iv) aggregate two or more players’ salaries that do not exceed $10.1 million (again so that the trade still works from Team A’s perspective too). https://cbabreakdown.com/salary-cap-exceptions I've never seen mention anywhere and I would challenge you to find where it says that using the 125% salary matching in a trade hard caps a team.
Right, so it would need to be done before the Powell signing, and presumably before most of the vets sign (probably). Operating under strict boundaries - not Olshey's forte....
Oh, I didn't get it. I would fucking hope that we're not dumb enough to do anything that would give us a hard cap going forward trying to win a chip. Sorry.
Maybe I'm still not getting this but if we signed Norm using the bird exception, that wouldn't hard cap us. If we used the taxpayer MLE that wouldn't hard cap us. So we could still trade CJ for Simmons straight up because Ben's contract is less than 125% of CJ's so it wouldn't have anything to do with a hard cap, just follows the rules of being in the luxury tax, right???
Not to simplify this to the Bill Simmons approach, but I do agree with his insistence on evaluating players by a simple method: Can they be a rotation guy in the playoffs? Stotts essentially used a 6 man rotation essentially in the playoffs. The players we should target are these guys. And there are plenty of them at the bottom end of the FA list this summer who we can potentially afford depending on who shakes out after day 1.
Yes, but if we take in DeRozan, even though it’s technically possible, makes any CJ for Simmons deal in the future much harder.
Here are some minimum (or close to it) guys who played substantial minutes in the playoffs last year: - Duncan Robinson - 25 mpg - Drummond - 21 mpg - Cam Payne - 19 mpg - Blake Griffin - 27 mpg - Bruce Brown - 23 mpg - Raul Neto - 22 mpg - Taj Gibson - 28 mpg (Thibs is insane) - Melo - 24 mpg - Austin Rivers - 30 mpg - Reggie Jackson - 33 mpg - Wes Matthews- 18 mpg - Batum - 29 mpg yes a lot of them were buyout candidates, so maybe we don't get the guy we want on day 1. And yes, some of their minutes were a function of teammates getting injured, but they all contributed positively in some manner (melo probably arguable). But it's interesting how many of them were valuable in contrast to the guys who signed for the MLE last year. We can't fail again where the guy we give the largest contract to doesn't get off the bench in the playoffs.
