OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Studies show that blacks and latinos are the least likely to get the vaccine. Vaccine passports are simply a way for society to make them forced to be on the outside looking in.

     
  2. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Do you support forced vaccinations?
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Vaccine passports are free and available in every town in the country.

    All they have to do is take advantage of it and they'll be as included as everyone else.

    Very simple. Just more bullshit trying to stir shit up.
     
  4. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    They must be idiots? right?
     
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    We've already discussed this. I support losing insurance coverage for diseases which you refuse to vaccinate for. I support individuals and businesses having the right to exclude those who are not vaccinated.
     
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    More bullshit...
     
  7. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    So that's a "no" on vaccine mandates.
     
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    No. I'm undecided on mandates. I'd have to see the exact proposal.

    And, if we had government healthcare I guess that would actually be considered a government mandate. It would basically be a fee handed out by the government for not vaccinating. Already would be, Since half of our healthcare is paid for by the government anyway.

    So it's more complicated than you're making it seem. As is most of this.
     
  9. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    One's opinion isn't complicated. I'm undecided is an acceptable answer.
     
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    Except what I described could be considered a vaccine mandate, but you took my original description to mean no, I'm not for them.

    Easy to get shit twisted around when you can't see the full picture...
     
  11. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Authoritarianism for the win?

     
  12. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    It was when he started moving his lips.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Next time, don't sugar coat it.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I have to disagree with you here. Trolling means lying and EL PRESIDENTE believes what he is telling us is true. I've got to give him that much.
     
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    Have there been posts removed? It looks like you are replying to someone but I don't see posts to which you are replying. But I like your points.
     
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    I'm honestly not sure I believe that. However, if he does believe it, he's trying very hard not to understand the evidence and explanations he's been given.
     
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    You don’t know the price of a vaccine for someone who’s been adversely affected by it. No matter how small, there is a risk there and it’s anyone’s choice to opt out. Period. You can kick and scream all you want, you don’t get to tell people what to put in their body. And when the government decides they think they have that authority, shit is going to get really bad.

    All of this for a pandemic that is literally over. Numbers are way down and will never return to pandemic defining levels. Yet all the media has to do is say ‘variant’ and here you are wanting to usher in complete totalitarianism to get your point across. It’s fucked. Mind your own business. It doesn’t help that you sit on here name calling in response to people’s legitimate concerns or literal facts they present. It’s not really changing anyone’s mind.
     
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  19. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Yes. I would absolutely be against forced vaccinations.

    Live and let die.
     
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    More bullshit. Numbers are way up. Higher than any point since January.

    How is letting people choose to avoid other people who choose too be carriers totalitarian? How is allowing financial protection against those who choose be at high risk totalitarian? That's just freedom.

    It's over right? So what's the problem?

    Once those who choose to be carriers leave I'll be able to mind my own business.
     
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