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Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Scalma, Jul 9, 2021.

  1. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    So we can trade a 2027 pick and that’s it. Good to know.

    Zach hasn’t been signed yet fwiw, so it could still be done.

    But one thing to note is that the TPE would only be at Zach’s previous salary due to BYC rules, so not sure if a TPE of 5 million is worth it.
     
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    RR7 Well-Known Member

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    It looks like they made the McDermott signing a sign and trade with Indiana, so there's really no reason for us not to.
    Which means we probably wont.
     
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    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure the Septien rule about future 1st round picks applies to 2nd round picks...but maybe. This section (89) suggests it doesn't:

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    and, the 2028 draft is eligible for trading now

    good point about BYC, but still, a 5M TPE could be fairly handy, especially around the trade deadline
     
  5. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Wiz brings up a good point with the trade exception though, and this applies to the TPMLE as well:

    Dame wants us to "put our best foot forward".

    Even if the TPMLE player falls out of the rotation, or is not "worth" their contract, at the very least it's $9 million dollars more we use to match salaries in a trade down the line. It's most likely going to be a short contract, so no long term ramifications there.

    The second round pick for a TPE is literally a no risk-move where you give nothing and return something.

    These two moves should absolutely be the bare minimum of "putting our best foot forward".
     
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    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    do we know 'exactly' where Portland's cap is now?

    The Apron is about 143M

    Spotrac's latest on Portland:

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    but, as near as I can tell that does not include Snell and Brown

    if that's accurate, then Portland is about 6M below the Apron; barely over the tax line. Couldn't use the full-MLE obviously, But definitely the TPMLE would be a trade chip/filler that should be in the arsenal

    the only 'yeah, but...' I see there is if Seattle is insisting the Olshey reserve the option to trade under the tax-line by the deadline if the Blazers are 8th-seed/lottery bound
     
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  7. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    It sounds like they don't want to use the TPMLE on someone that may not be worth the money. My point is there is no reason not to use it from a team building perspective. As you said, the only thing is that this would allow them to easily get out of the tax at the deadline.

    We still need to sign one more guy though. Either way.
     
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    i dont agree, but both him and cj mccollum have shown that they can run pnr with nurk

    hopefully chauncey makes them pass the ball, especially cj mccollum, as i think he can make actual plays, not just pass the ball
     
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    I'm assuming I'm not the only one that sees the Blazers have a giant hole at the PF position and big man depth. Portland has 13 players and 11 are under 6'8; 10 are under 6'7; and 5 are under 6'4. I know the new NBA has blurred the lines at some positions, but there is still a painted area and the basket is still 10' high. That's crazy....almost looks at the moment that Olshey is trying out-Morey the Houston small-ball lineup from a couple of years ago. And it bears repeating that both of Portland's players over 6'7 have extensive injury histories. Zeller has missed an average of 30 games over the last 4 seasons....yikes!

    so if the Blazers do need another PF, the available list is:

    Paul Millsap
    Mike Scott
    Nicolo Melli
    Patrick Patterson
    Alen Smailagic
    Ersan Ilyasova
    TJ Leaf

    and if it's some kind of C/PF tweener, those available:

    Aron Baynes
    Ed Davis
    Luke Kornet
    Isaiah Hartenstein
    Harry Giles
    DeMarcus Cousins
    Jordan Bell

    yeeeeesh, that's a sad list of options. Honestly, I'm not sure any deserve a 5-6M 1 year deal. Olshey may be waiting for one of them to settle on a minimum deal, although I'd think Millsap would be the only one who might expect more

    still, a 5M expiring contract should have value, especially as the trade deadline approaches. Cynically, I'm thinking Seattle's position might be they are fine with mediocrity but don't want to pay tax for it
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Get the salary and use it for trades. Miami paid Meyers Leonard 10M to use as trade bait for gods sakes.
     
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    yeah, I'm agreeing with that

    Portland could/have a 5.9M expiring contract and a 5.4M TPE. Those are both very useful options in trades. They currently have neither
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Melli is playing in Italy this season.
     
  14. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    TPE would've only been $5.4M and you can only protect picks through 55 but it would've been nice to have regardless.
     
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    Should the Blazers be interested in Lauri Markkanen?
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Yes
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Absolutely. He had a case of the yips with his shooting. Doesn't mean he can't find his stroke. Go get him.
     
  18. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Laurie has the potential to be a Nurk type of steal - a sulking immature big who could use a change of scenery.

    Legit shooter. I hope he doesn’t land in Dallas.
     
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    I'd love to add Lauri Markkanen AND Paul Milsap.
     
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    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    LoL…That’d be a pipe dream but if you could go after one who would it be?
     

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