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  1. riverman

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    I think that as well as Roco becoming a better help defender under Chauncey will change Nurk's pressure to be the lone ranger in the paint
     
  2. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I think the primary reason for all our bigs' foul trouble has been our guards' inability to keep guys in front of them.
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    It kinda makes me wonder how far does Neil's ego extend? We all suspect that Dame was never Neil's pick. Does Neil want to trade Dame and showcase what his favorite pick can do as the #1?
     
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    This right here.
     
  5. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    But isn’t Zeller always hurt?
     
  6. Pinwheel1

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    Yes, he should fit right in.
     
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    Yes. You not knowing who Zeller is isn't an indictment on him, sadly.
     
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    He's missed noticeable time in the past 4 seasons. That's the only reason we were able to get a backup C of his caliber the minimum.
     
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    This is a crazy conspiracy.
     
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    I doubt it. I think above all else Neil wants to be thought of highly by his peers...if he is the sole reason that Dame is run out of this situation, I don't think reputation wise he'll ever recover. He's stuck between a rock and a hard place right now and I think he is making the smart move to hold until the deadline before cashing in his chips, if need be. I am a little excited to see this lineup with a fresh perspective. I have a love/hate relationship with Nurk but there is no doubt he will play a huge role in how the future unfolds. If he finally realizes his potential as a 15/10/5/3 type center under Billups, I think with some bench tweaks we have a great team....that's asking a lot because he is a headcase.
     
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    That's the point.
     
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    That's the unibrow...wrong team site again
     
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    The point is to believe in absolute nutjob conspiracies? As in that being a good thing?

    You're better than this.
     
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    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    Maybe they can just discuss Dame's new album here?
     
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    do you really believe it's "absolute nutjob" to suggest that Olshey might actually be more emotionally attached to CJ than he is to Dame?
     
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    Yes
     
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    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

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    No, bias is a real thing.

    A lot of you haven't worked in the corporate world and it shows.
     
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    You would have to believe:
    - That Olshey was given the job without the ability to have any say in the pick
    - That Olshey didn't want to draft Dame
    - That Olshey got hired even though he told the organization in the interview process that he wanted to draft someone else
    - That, 9 years later, Olshey doesn't value Dame properly
    - That he wants to keep onto his own draft picks over all else no matter what (despite him trading Gary Trent Jr. for an expiring contract this past year

    It's lunacy and completely made up simply because people have an emotional bias against Olshey which replaces any sort of logical thinking.
     
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    LOL...I'm sure people will accept you as being an arbiter of logic

    not one word of that refutes the notion that Olshey could personally like CJ more than he likes Dame. And that's what I asked about. He's probably smart enough to realize that Dame is much much better as a player. But it's entirely possible his bias toward CJ is shaping the value he assigns him to the team and in trade talks. You're jumping well ahead of that simple idea in your zeal to defend Olshey

    I mean, 3 years ago Dame went over Olshey's head to talk directly to Paul Allen. About a week after Olshey fired Stotts while assuring everybody that the roster wasn't the problem, Dame explicitly said the roster was the problem. Ive seen enough of Olshey's prickly ego at work to believe those actions by Dame didn't sit well with Olshey
     
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  20. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    No, you wouldn't have to believe any of these things, if you believe:
    -That Olshey was given the job and told who the scouting department liked, but was given the latitude to make any pick he wanted
    -That Olshey agreed with the scouting department's take
    -That whether or not Olshey wanted to draft Dame was not a condition of his hire
    -That, 9 years later, Olshey properly values Dame as a franchise cornerstone and all-NBA player, and also the asset which would garner by far the largest and possibly even most lopsided return were it to be dealt
    -That Olshey specifically values CJ as a superlative find in a crappy draft, much more than other picks he's made since

    All of those things are perfectly reasonable, and jibe completely with the idea that Olshey might have more personal pride in CJ's selection than Dame's, and thus a greater emotional satisfaction in his success.
     

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