WTF are you talking about? of course I speculate...just like you...just like everybody posting here. Sky is blue. That's S2 in a nutshell. what I was specifically talking about, and what Blazerkor was specifically talking about was one particular bit of speculation by a Bay Area Sports guy....that being his conjecture that Simmons wouldn't want to play in Portland.
I know specifically what you're referring to when you say: "another example of conjecture becoming accepted fact. Certainly, at least a couple of posters here are invested in believing it." But you do the same shit when you say: hE MuST rEAllY LiKe cJ mOrE ThaN dAmE... You literally made that up off of reading too deeply into what, something you made up? If you do this, why call others out for it? Pot meet Kettle? Like really. Your narratives are just as invented as anyone else.
sure....it snowballs...just like every other rumor on the nba circuit but when someone says nothing has been said about a topic....in this case, I'll disagree...there are many articles about it...and sources...show me the Dame hates Neil source...show me the Jody wants to sell the team source...show me the Nurk isn't coming back source...it's offseason and we're talking trade targets....same thing happened years ago when Melo didn't want to come here..stories about his wife not wanting to move to Portland....I didn't want Melo then either...just like this offseason Nobody on S2 is qualified to prove or debunk the rumor....including me. It was a topic of controversy early in the offseason across the league...still is to some extent. My gut says I don't want the kid's baggage on our team...lot of that was fueled by his own conduct towards his own team...Ben Simmons can go public and debunk it himself. Dame did that in his rumor mill. Philly and his agent would put a gag on that story in a heartbeat since they want his value higher...that's what buries things players might say once they realize it costs them money.
It wasn't like some angry outburst about something he just realized. He simply agreed with Durant that it wasn't handled right. If that made him angry enough to want out, it would have happened in the past few years.
There are many reasons to believe they may want to move on from Green. Their interest in Ben Simmons probably being the main one. Green looked their brass right in the eye and told them they "are gonna fuck this up" when it came to mending fences with Durant. BOTH agreed management did fuck up. Meaning sans management, Durant maybe would've stayed. Draymond also said he laughed in their faces when the suspended him for not apologizing on their terms. In an interview with Dame he said he often felt doubted by Kerr and that many times after hitting a 3 he would stare Kerr down for disbelieving in him. Green is 31 years old and not getting any younger. If Simmons can develop a decent 3 pointer, he could replace Green at PF.
I thought it was pretty disrespectful to his coach and his owner. Would you be happy to hear Dame talk like that?
I could be excited with Draymond. But if we’re trading for Simmons and not getting Simmons, that’s a bad move on our part. Simmons has become criminally underrated because of one bad playoff series.
Grant alone is worse than RoCo. What is the obsession with Jerami Grant on this board? Average player, overpaid.
Really? I don't think it's disrespectful at all. It was blunt and truthful. And what does he need to kiss a fucking ring or something? Don't tell me WTF I have to do when it comes to relations with other people because I got it. If they'd have stayed out of it, shit woulda been better. I know that's hindsight talking but BOTH agreed management fucked up. And you know what? Draymond kept it 100% real with them. How do you know dame doesn't? It wouldn't bother me one bit if Dame told Neil that about an argument he had with another player.
Remembering back to the late 80's, the Blazers had been built with Clyde, Terry, & Jerome. Then the trade for Duck. But they were still missing that one piece. That move was Buck Williams. turned a decent team into a contender overnight. I feel like acquiring a Draymond Green could be that same move. Just saying.
Really? Because the only way I see it happening is if we trade Dame to Philly. In which case why would we want to get older?
I don't think it's a big deal at all. They've been dealing with Dray for a long time now. The dude laughed in their faces. They know what they've got. They might be tired of dealing with it but I don't think this interview was a big deal at all. Just Dray being Dray and one of the reasons I don't really like the dude.
I've already said I'd trade Roco DJJ and a pick for him...not Dame to Philly ..we don't need Philly and part of it would be Draymond telling the Warriors he wants the trade...to Portland..the idea is to get better...no scenario trading Dame makes us better...fact is the Warriors are 190 million into luxury tax payments on top of payroll and they can't pay Simmons big contract
He plays really good defense on the perimeter and in the post and he also scores well in both areas. A very skilled player and legit athlete. I don't know what you wouldn't like about him... are you actually Pop?
We're in total disagreement here. Jerami Grant is just coming into his prime and is averaging 22 PPG on an above average PER. We're also in disagreement here. Simmons must be traded before camp. His value is only going to decrease over that time. They're not keeping him and Morey ain't getting what he's asking for.
