Late Summer Kool-Aid Drinking

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    good job

    by the way, how is the summer going under your new Gazebo?
     
  2. riverman

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    I'll refute the notion...it's fishing for dysfunction plain and simple....pitting how much the GM likes a player is a sign of a slow news day I'd say....you can just again say that you don't like Olshey and leave it at that...no need to compare his feelings about two guys he's never wanted to trade period...Dame talked to Paul Allen all the time...the idea that he went over Neils head to do so is bull.....he talked to Paul...Paul let him use his recording studios...they had a relationship...you don't like Olshey, fine but fishing for dysfunction when it's not there is boredom pretty much just to fuel Olshey hate...it's a dumb question to begin with..our front office and ownership has always had an open door policy with franchise players under Paul. So much so that they trusted Lamarcus at his word that he'd stay...they didn't want to trade him either...not a character flaw...just an extension of franchise trust...sometimes those don't work out..listened to CJ's Woj podcast today and there's nothing but clarity between CJ Neil and Dame...all the rest of this is major market media hangover from trying to pry Dame loose from his home..the reality is that Dame and CJ are not unhappy Blazers. Saw that coming when this all started going sideways around Lebron and the Lakers
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Hasn't collapsed, so that's good! Actually built me an 8-ft picnic table inside, so it's all set for outdoor dining, and we have lighting and a refrigerator out there too. We've spent most of the summer doing various vacation activities, interspersed with hiding from the heat, but now it feels like we're finally getting into prime backyard hangout weather, and I'm really looking forward to enjoying it for the next few months.

    Thanks for asking! Your input in the construction process was absolutely invaluable. Man am I glad we got that done before lumber prices soared.
     
  4. wizenheimer

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    I have a 30 year old cedar deck. The planks are 2X4 clear cedar. IIRC, when I built the duck 2X4 clear cedar was something like 42 cents a lineal foot. I need to replace 3 or 4 boards and I called to price 2X4 clear cedar a month ago. $4.73 a lineal foot. A 10' board would cost 47 dollars. Needless to say, I haven't replaced the boards yet
     
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    I went through a similar experience with fence boards....yikes....I can wait to build the few things I have planned until lumber is reasonable...in Oregon inflating lumber costs has to be price gouging as the lumber industry has not shut down through the lockdown ...they'v been logging and milling steadily...I live not far from the mill
     
  6. BonesJones

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    And he could personally like Elleby over Dame. Now prove it's wrong. See how easy that was?

    I'm talking about the notion that Olshey favors C.J. because C.J. is his draft pick and Dame wasn't. For that narrative to be true, all the things I said would have to be true as well.

    But you're in your feelings right now and will only pick and choose stuff that fits your emotional bias, so you're sitting here ignoring any context on quotes that doesn't fit along with your "Olshey is the boogeyman" narrative. What does fit is "Olshey might like C.J. more than Dame!" and "Those actions by Olshey didn't sit well with Dame!" simply because they didn't sit well with you.

    I don't care to defend Olshey. I've been very critical of him in the past. But when people try to make up narratives that have absolutely no ounce of evidence or basis in reality, I'm not going to go along with it even if I absolutely hated him.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Those first two things go against the narrative that "C.J. was Olshey's pick, Dame wasn't".

    The third thing goes against the narrative that the organization had already decided who to draft (i.e. "Laid the groundwork to draft Dame") before Olshey got there.

    The fourth thing doesn't work in regards to a Dame vs. C.J. conversation because you're not going to make the team better for C.J. by trading Dame out. It'd kick-start a rebuild which would mean an inevitable C.J. trade and/or Olshey getting fired pretty quickly.

    The fifth thing would've made in unlikely that he traded Trent for Powell, in my opinion. If he overvalued his draft finds that much, I don't think the Trent trade happens.
     
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    LOL...with all due respect....fuck off with that pot/kettle bullshit

    as if you don't have pro-olshey emotional bias
     
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    Someone's cranky!

    I'm pro-Olshey? Your memory must be failing you. That's not your fault so I'll give you a pass.
     
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    do you realize that a 25-26 year old responding to people 40 years older by psycho-analyzing their emotions and perspective based upon posts on the internet will be viewed as goofy arrogant bullshit?

    just to summarize, I didn't say in this thread that Olshey liked CJ more. All I said was that it was reasonable to think he might
     
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    If acknowledging your disdainful feelings for Neil Olshey and discussing your bias against him is "psycho-analyzing", then so be it. People can feel however they want about me. What makes you think I care? Why are you psycho-analyzing how others feel about me?

    I don't think it's reasonable. It's not based on a single shred of real evidence. If you make an outlandish claim, you should back it up with some sort of evidence.
     
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    yeeeeesh...and you had the gall to talk about other people being illogical
     
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    We have a little over a month before training camp. I'm sure Morey will want to deal Simmons before that date.

    This will be the deal:

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    Then we do this:
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    I cant see GS giving up Green and Kuminga for Simmons? Maybe Im wrong?
     
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    Why not? I can.

    With young Simmons, they don't need Dray or Kuminga. They'd be poising themselves for another run when Klay comes back.
     
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    They would probably offer someone else along with Green, as I think they are very high on him. You could be right though.
     
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    They're high on him but I think they'd be willing to part with him before they part with Moody who was really the steal of the draft.

    I see them having to give up a young guy with upside to get Simmons who they're also really high on.
     
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    Playing alongside Steph and learning from Klay just feels like the absolute perfect situation for Moody. He's got an excellent chance to be very successful in GS.

    If the deal ends up as you predict, Steph/Moody/Klay/Wiggins/Simmons has a chance to be an absolutely lethal lineup.
     
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    Yeah, Moody to Golden State was a nice fit, he has the perfect teachers. Moody strikes me as a Klay Thompson Lite--obviously, he's not at all likely to be one of the greatest shooters ever, but he profiles as a high level shooter, a smart defender, not the greatest athlete and needs to work on his ball-handling and driving skills. Thompson did work on his ball-handling skills and now has a decent ability to put the ball on the floor and drive by a close-out, but he didn't when he entered the league. Thompson is the perfect model for Moody to emulate.
     
  20. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Wood prices are crazy. Out of sheer boredom I was gonna crank out a few cedar birdhouses but birds don’t need such expensive digs. I live across from the so-called Xerox/Tektronix property, and some bioscience company is moving in and doing a major revamp. An unbelievable number of old (and big) fir and oak trees are being removed. The construction crews are treating the logs like gold and I’m sure they will be used to help defray the cost of the project.

    Too, my sister recently logged most of her 40 acres out of Molalla. They weren’t the biggest or best trees, but between the increased fire danger and sky rocketing lumber prices, it was time to cut. I don’t think the high prices are due to gouging. It’s just that demand has gone through the roof. Too, a lot of Oregon timber was lost or damaged during the ice storm…..and last year’s fires. Then of course likely struggles to find enough employees during the pandemic, transportation issues and costs, etc, etc, etc. A lot of things are driving lumber costs right now…….and timber owners are taking advantage.
     
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