THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY vs oregon ducks

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I don't appreciate fans like that.
     
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    Ummm graduate? :blush:
     
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    I'm not following you...are you saying that Duck fans who say they can root for the beavers are lying or something? And when they say it they are being condescending? I'm kind of confused about your point

    I was born in Oregon and lived almost all my life here. Almost exclusively in the Willamette Valley. Graduated from high school in 1970. My senior year, I had pretty much decided that I was going to go to OSU. just about at the end of the process, I was glancing thru the OSU catalogue and noticed that the co-ed population was 66% male. Whoa says I! So, I looked at my second choice, the UofO and noticed the co-ed population was 58% female. Decision made

    yeah, I'll admit it....I was un-serious enough about my higher education that I chose a school based on a much better ratio of gals to guys. Most of the hot gals from my high school planning on college (all 9 of them) were going to the UofO, so that was another check mark. One went to Stanford but she was about 3 tiers smarter than anybody else so she didn't count. Wasn't hot either

    anyway, most of my buddies went to OSU and I visited them regularly. Never got into the beaver hate-mode. Still remember that '67 Giant Killer team with Steve Preece, Dick Enyart, and Billy Main. Loved the Fiesta Bowl when Erickson's Beaver team crushed Notre Dame. Really enjoyed watching Ralph Miller's basketball teams. Still remember that team with Ray Blume, Mark Radford, Steve Johnson and Rob Holbrook. Cheered on the beaver baseball team when they were in the college world series. Fan of Oregon, the university, but also Oregon the state. Beavers get a little of that love
     
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  4. Tince

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    Always found these sweeping generalizations used as justifications interesting.

    In my experience, about 5% of fans can be obnoxious, 10% of fans are over the top nice, and 85% do nothing noticable. Personally, I don't use 10's or even 100's of fans as my barometer for who I root for. Specifically, twitter or message board fans have zero impact on who I root for.
     
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    LOL...and at least one Beaver fan just might be an asshole
     
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  6. Tince

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    I've attended both. Graduated from Oregon. First ever football games as a kid were OSU games, but the majority now are Oregon games.

    Let's say there are 1,000,000 people who consider themselves Beaver fans, I've probably had a personal interaction of any note with 1000 of them, or 0.1%. Just for me personally, that's not a big enough sample size for me to love or hate the Beavers. I root for them because I like the school, campus, I like to see local schools have success, and I have a bunch of friends who are die-hards. Now, if Oregon St winning is going to keep Oregon out of the Rose Bowl, I'm going to root against them because the Ducks are my #1 team.

    I'm not trying to convince you to change your mindset. I've never had any luck trying to convince someone to modify their dislike of a very large group of people, whether that be because of sex, race, religion, etc. Sports is no different, we're very fanatical. I commented because your logic of "I hate team <x> because their fans <y>" is a very standard formula I see used and it's never made sense to me.

    Either way, I have nothing personal against you, nor does your stance on Duck fans change the way I think about the Beavers, I'll be rooting for them to beat the Rainbow for the reasons I listed in my previous post.
     
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    Ohio State going to roll the Ducks unfortunately. Oregon won’t score enough to keep pace. All those athletes and 4/5 star studs and they are the most vanilla offense. So frustrating.
     
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    I'm with you on this.

    Yes Oregon roster is young and the majority of the 4/5 stars on the roster are freshman or sophomores, but on paper, these are the most talented Oregon teams in school history. What we see on the field doesn't match the recruting rankings.
     
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    Fans arguing who is more arrogant is like listening to Republicans and Democrats debate who is more hypocritical.
    As a Duck grad I hate when others are arrogant, but I am old enough to remember how fucking obnoxious Beaver fans were in the 80's in basketball.
    And don't get me started on Husky Fans.......

    As far as 5* athletes......let me know how many are on the field tomorrow. Especially if Thibs and Flowe are out as many are saying.
    Reading about the Ducks with Blazers fans is about as annoying as reading about the Blazers on a Duck messageboard.
     
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    I’m over Mario as a coach. Great recruiter no question. Game day though is hard to watch most of the time.
     
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    Ive said it before and I’ll say it again. Mario Christobal is a fantastic recruiter maybe the best out there but he’s garbage with X and Os coaching
     
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    To your last point - I think there is nothing wrong with deciding you'll never root for a team and I suspect you'll be happy with the result tomorrow.

    To your first point - Thanks, but this is another cliche take that I've never understood. I have no data on the ratio of Duck fans who attended the school in comparison to other schools fans and their attendence. I'm assuming you do not either. Also of note, I didn't graduate or work for the Blazers.

    In my personal life, the majority of Oregon and Oregon St fans I know did not graduate from those schools, though I don't know that makes them any better/worse of a fan. I'm certainly no "better" of a Duck fan because I paid them $50k for a piece of paper. Let's be real, D1 football is a business and probably shouldn't even be associated with the academic side of a university anymore.
     
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    I was with you on your last post, but not on this one.

    Teams that win the national championship were virtually always top 10 recruiters on average in the prior four years. At no point in the history of Oregon football have they averaged a top 10 recruiting class, not even under Chip, until now. I think Mario is directly responsible for getting Oregon to the point where they have the horses to contend.

    Where we do agree is that the his in game coach and offensive blueprint does not maximize the talent. I think this can be corrected IF he hires elite cordinators and allows them to do their jobs. I think it'll be much easier for the AD to encourage Mario to give more power to his OC than it would be to replace Mario with another coach who could bring in top 10 classes.

    For that reason, I'm no where near wanting Mario gone. If they go 9-3 for the next 4-5 years with top 10 talent, then I suppose you would have to move on.
     
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    Ohio St has got commitments from 16, 5* players in the last 4 years.
    Oregon has got commitments from 4, 4* players inthe last 4 years (all on defense).

    I would not advise on clicking on a thread titled "THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY vs oregon ducks" on this board if Blazers fans takes on the Ducks annoy you. :smiley-beerchug:
     
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    Right - he needs to hire high level coordinators and I’m not sure he can do it. He coaches like the O lineman he is. He recruits studs all over, game comes, and you wouldn’t know. Even if it’s only been two years of these high level recruits there are guys in the NFL from Oregon and it was the same. If I was a WR I wouldn’t come here. Maybe Thompson the QB changes that.
     
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    Totally fair to disagree. Unfair for you to pretend to know that I'm not being sincere because it doesn't match your beliefs.

    If you reread what I said "the majority of Oregon and Oregon St fans I know did not graduate from those schools". I did not claim that I think most Duck fans went to the University of Oregon nor did my post imply that. I'm also not stating that as a general fact because I do not have data to back that up. If you have data to back up this claim as a whole, I would love to see it and use it in the future (whatever the outcome may be). Us saying what's true in our small bubble is probably not the best way to come to a global conclusion.

    Also of note, I don't think we share the same emotional attachment to our degree or homes. I think it's awesome if you feel a great amount of pride towards those things though.
     
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    Likewise. Apprciate the different perspectives.

    If you do ever come across any data about fan bases and their graduation rate to said school, I would be genuinely interested in seeing it.
     
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    1. There are lots of people who love both the Ducks and the Beavers, myself included. This state is so sports starved I don't see how people can't be.

    2. I remember as a kid multiple columns from Dwight Jaynes about how both the Ducks and Beavers should leave the Pac 10 because they can't compete. Dwight is an idiot.

    3. Ralph Miller was the greatest coach in the state of Oregon.

    4. I went to Oregon so the Ducks are my greatest love between the two but I'm always cheering for the Beavers.

    5. Trash talk between fans of both programs is fun.
     
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    Yes. They need to figure this out.
     
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    I grew up in Portland, and i cheer for both. I use to root for whoever had a chance to go to a better bowl game, to win the Civil War game. Over the years i have become more of a Duck fan due to their excelling in the Pac-12. Once my daughter went there, nd i moved to Springfield, that only increased my fandom for the Ducks Football Team. But i still root for the Beavs, and was very disapointed by their failure to beat Purdue, in a game that had Nolan played the whole game, maybe they win. Noyer had a scatter gun, and looked unpoised. I'm hoping that Brown Jr. plays great, and the Ducks win, but if he struggles like Noyer did, i hope Coach Cristobal pulls him and lets Thompson get some time vs. the Buckeyes. Thompson has all the skillset that Stroud has. Maybe more. I know it's hard to be patient. Cristobal is closing in building a top ranked program. Go Ducks, and Go Beavs! Hawaii won't be a pushover. If Noyer plays, he better bring some accuracy.
     
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