OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

We are all hearing the same things from the same people since this started. How is that some of us hear or read it and just know “well this virus is new and things are going to change and Fauci will adjust as he goes etc” and then other people are like “god dammit you told us on Feb 11 one thing and now it’s another!”? Do we have to dumb everything down for every goddamn thing? For fucks sake we thought it was one shot now it’s two and a booster and we thought vaccinated wouldn’t be contagious then we learned they are. No one is trying to deceive you just listen and do what’s right

 

So those squirrels have really got you by the nuts?

 

People who engage in manic hysteria and outright vitriol are part of what is so off-putting to me, and probably a lot of others who choose not to get the covid shot. It started with a simple decision to opt out of a hastily developed and unapproved treatment, not exactly a controversial decision, and definitely not one that’s anyone’s business but my own. Never cared if anyone else got it or even tried to dissuade anybody from getting it (despite your accusation of me ‘preaching’ against it when all I’ve been doing this entire time is trying to defend my own decision to have a say in the matter and not be punished).

That’s how it started.

It’s now evolved into me drifting farther and farther away from any chance of ever getting it. Looking around at the outright HATE and division this topic causes does NOT persuade me. You may say that it’s my fault, fine. But I won’t be threatened, berated, insulted or punished into making a decision. I’ve been called an anti vaxxer even though my family and I have all our vaccinations, I’ve been called anti-science even though math and science are an integral part of my job, I’ve been informed of all the things that should be taken away from me if I don’t comply (including my livelihood and my fucking children!) I’ve been called stupid by people who I know are morons, I’ve watched people on social media (including this place) LITERALLY CELEBRATE the deaths of those they disagree while rubbing it in and saying I told you so.

Which of these things are supposed to get me to jump on board again? They aren’t great motivators.

And my answer to your question is NO. I don’t feel I’d be any better off if I ran out and got jabbed tomorrow. But I ain’t stopping anyone else either. Do you Boo.

 

As someone that works in local media I can tell you this is 100% false. Whenever controversial stories get posted we almost always get comments about it being ‘fake news’ from whatever side it doesn’t favor.

 

you missed my green font. and a bit of forum history.

 

Idaho is in the midst of out of control outbreak. They are 49th in vaccination. They fired public health director in largest county. There were three candidates to replace him. They included an epidemiologist and an infectious disease expert. They hired an antivaxxer who calls vaccines "needle rape", opposes wearing masks and recommends horse dewormer.

The speaker of the state house wants to call legislature back for a special session to prohibit health care facilities from requiring staff be vaccinated.

But he is so pro life.

 

A four year old Texas girl died of Covid. Her mother is antivax. She had five children. Now four. Her five month old son is in the hospital with Covid. The mother is still unvaccinated. This is what Abbott calls Texans right to choose.

 

I don't think you should be punished, but I think people should have the right to know that you don't care about keeping them safe.

Unvaccinated people should be treated only until a vaccinated person needs a hospital room.

Then a room should be cleared for the vaccinated person, and the unvaxxed person should be treated in unvaxxed tents or warehouses by the medical professionals who also choose to remain unvaxxed.

No care at all should be diverted from the vaccinated public toward an unvaccinated person.

If this doesn't work out hospitals should just stop taking in unvaccinated people.

This is not a question of punishment, but resources.

The idea of a vaccinated person dying due to lack of resources caused by unvaccinated people is an absolute travesty. The unvaccinated person CHOSE their circumstance.

 

whoops … whoosh

 

You can't build statistics out of anecdotes.

 

Look, this argument has been settled a long time ago by people who actually know their ass from a hole in the ground.

 

I pray that you are one of the lucky ones who doesn't have to go to the hospital and hog a respirator or worse yet, die.

 

Title needs updating, mods. It's over 600,000 now and except for children, people who chose to be sick.

 

The vast majority of those people died before the vaccine even came out, calling them ‘unvaccinated’ is technically true, but also extremely misleading when attempting to use their deaths as a lesson in vaccination.