if it doesnt matter the. Neither does the post you wuoted be suse it isnt what i said… at all Geez man. What do peolle not understand about chosen risks im lifestyles? How hard is it to differentiate someone born with diabetes over someone who likes to sit all day and eat shit food? I know some of you are capable of differentiating so some of these posts are just ridiculous.
Julius literally asked you, "so should someone who was born with diabetes, did nothing to cause it and their only behavior that created the situation was simply being born, be forced to pay for?" You replied, "yes. Its unfortunate but its reality."
Ill say it again. Im not for paying into a system that doesn't hold people accountable for the chosen risks they take without there being some sort of sliding scale or risk tax that only goes towards those choosing that risk. this has nothing to do with born illnesses, etc. hopecully that is clear enough for some of you
i thought that is what the current system is. And i said yes its unfortunate but that reality. I didn't say thats my plan. and i made about five more posts clarifying this….
His question clearly has the word "should". It was asking your opinion on the matter, not what the current system is. Shocker you had reading comprehension problems. That's never happened before.
Since all of us are concerned about our health and healthcare let me give you a GIANT PRO TIP that I discovered on my own due to my own obsessiveness. Before you go in for your annual physical call your doctor and ask for him to send in the request for lab work. Then go in and get your lab work down a few weeks BEFORE you see your doctor. All too often you see your doctor and during that visit he orders labs. He gets the results but doesn't really discuss them with you unless there is something bad. By having the results available to your doctor BEFORE you see him you can have better discussions about the results. How diet and/or exercise can make small improvements. How adjustments to medications or supplements like vitamins can help or prevent future problems. It means 2 trips to your doctor but the knowledge about your health will be more complete during the short amount of time you are seeing your doctor.
OB it's more than just obesity or smoking...tobacco taxes are really high for smokers as it is but taxes pay for wheelchair accessibility and toilet stalls...where do you stop contributing to things that help disabled with your tax dollars regarless of how they got that way...or mental illness which leads to obesity in some cases..I don't think it's humane to exclude anyone from public health and I think it's no big deal for those with the ways and means to contribute to do so...tax dollars are spent on many less important things that you nor I benefit from as it is...America is one of the few countries in the world where you can eat yourself to death...those you pay for almost inevitably have shorter life spans than non smoking or healthier citizens..it works out anyway for the collective benefit of humanity
Well that is just it, it's all based on risk factors rather than on people being human beings. We've already all lost.
oh i get it. Its wayyy. More than obesity or tobacco. Id say lets start dollar for dollar and whats left can be spread out being the direct effect of the cost.
I subsidize billionaires who pay little or no taxes. Tax breaks for huge corporations. Endless wars. Religious institutions, some of which own millions in property, tax free. Politicians who want to take away my civil rights. So, how about I stop subsidizing them and subsidize national health instead.
Waiting to enact positive public policy is waiting... There is no benefit. Nothing gained. So what's the point? just as well start getting healthier now.
I had the same problem as you in seeing people's opinions as assertions. Try to filter them and recognize which ones are opinions such as Phatguysrule as an assertion. Maybe I'm missing something because I can't readily find the post you were responding to in order to understand the full context.
is not making a push for a healthier lifestyle not a positive? Ive stated my opinion and like ive said im all for universal health care as long as those who choose to do risky things, pay in more than those that dont. Same reason why i believe in a gas tax over an automobile tax. I shouldn't be taxed the same for not driving my car, as the next guy who drives 200 per day. institute a universal healthcare system like that and ill be all for it.
Good luck lol. This has been an ongoing convo between @Phatguysrule and i for a while now even in private. Mad respect for his patience and persistence and i really like talking politics with him. but to follow what we have been discussing? Lol. Sorry.
I've already said to get rid of the junk food subsidies, which is a taxpayer incentive to buy junk food. This would raise the price of junk food and remove the incentive for corporations to produce it. Therefore drastically increasing the price and eliminating the financial incentive for the poor to buy it. I'm also fine with a junk food tax.
i must have missed it. My apologies. Lots of posts to read from people. I should have taken our convo back to the DM. also i know better than engaging in serious convo on my phone. Its too easy to scroll and miss things. sorry. Thanks for not being an ass about it.
