OT Texas

Here's an interesting article on the issue of when life begins:

https://slate.com/human-interest/20...-christian-right-the-answer-is-over-time.html

 

Until you can figure out how to have kids on your own, then yes, you will absolutely need a woman's consent before becoming a father. Or, you can go and adopt one of the many children needing homes. Tough shit. That's how things work.

Yeah, yeah, it'd be great if everyone was as responsible as you desire, but that's so far from reality that actually expecting it is comical. 2 people hook up and a condom breaks. Man has control over the woman's decision, even though they took proper precautions? People get horny and have sex. They're not pausing for a drawn out discussion before hand.
DOes a woman have to ask her rapist if he wants the child?

It's a clear men should have more say than a woman on what she does with her body stance, and that's fucking disgusting to me.

 

first. Nonconsensual sex was never part of this discussion. Were talking two consenting adults. Ive said that many times. Your rape question is irrelevant.

its not more say. Its equal say. Equal rights.
Except when its not convenient. I get it.


Listen. I will never vote against abortion, but i can still hold my moral stance that its a copout on responsibility.

 

Thats not equal say. That's a man making the decision.
If you're in a consensual relationship where neither of you want children, then, can the woman force the man to have a vasectomy? They've both decided they don't want kids, seems fair.

 

wby is it forced? This idea that its forced is nonsense.
But a man can consent to a vasectomy if he is fine with that. If the woman wants him to have one and he doesnt? They arent meant for each other. The woman has a choice who she sleeps with and how. To then say they have no rights and its a forced baby, is ridiculous.

ill add that your stance, if more woman stand pat on their decision, it will push men to do as you said. Figure out how to have kin on their own.
Throughout the ages it has always been important to have offspring to continue the family name.
Once they(men) figure out how to do it on their own, what do you think the real womanizers and haters will do? Look to rid women from existence. Theirs stance will be women are now obsolete. Follow that course through. You will have evil men looking to rid the world of the lure of women like never before.

 

I honestly have no idea what any of this says, sorry.

 

wow. No need to apologize for me forgetting to proofread. I know better on my phone. Lol.
Please read again. I have fixed many things in that dyslexic rant.

 

This is the way it's supposed to be.

Honestly, I can't believe you posted that. Wow.

 

If you drink Mayan coffee you consent to having their children...

Like, feel free to drink it, but you're going to have to be held accountable at some point.

 

This is why men should control if and when she has babies. Obviously. I mean it's as good of a reason as we've heard thus far...

 

Lol. Theres that tribal mentality rearing its ugly head because someone doesn't believe what someone else believes. The typical response is to try to belittle and demean and make fun of.
The levels of arrogance of ones opinion being right or factual is beyond gross….


Arrogance is sooo unflattering. Especially when its based on opinions and not facts.
So not worthy of any type of respect or further engagement in any type of rational discussion.

but go one with your know it all selves. Lol.

Must be nice to be so narrow minded to think ones opinion of life is the only opinion of life that should matter. And anyone else with a differing thought should be made fun of.
I mean this is hilarious.


The gall, the hypocrisy. The open and blatant double standard!! lol

i demand equal rights. But fuck any potential father and their desire to be a father.

But yet dead beat dads are bad right? a woman can say i dont want a kid and kill it and the father has no say And its okay. But if a father doesnt want a child he is forced to pay child support if the woman wants the child?

women want to block men from having any say at all? Then don't play any damn deadbeat cards for fathers who dont want to be a dad.!!!!

The fucking double standard here is so obviously gross i really think some people might not be all there.
Cant have it both ways. Women cant complain about deadbeat dads, but do all the time. Where are the people saying that was his choice. He didn't want a child but it was forced on him to pay support for 18years?

oh its because he needs to take responsibility for putting his dick in her? She has no responsibility owed for spreading her legs to invite said dick????


Out of your fing minds with this distorted stance.


i just spoke with my mother and my wife on this topic and they both agreed men should have some say in whether they can be a father or not. If not then women will be the only ones controlling who comes into this world.
So not all women agree on this topic. So for a man to belittle another man for a differing view just shows how shallow some people are…

but go on with your know it all selves. I know its soo much fun to sit on a forum and try to belittle others with differing opinions. Must boost that ego up quite a bit!



Must be that moral superiority complex rearing its head again….



I mean just wow….

 

My wife turned me on to this. Best coffee I've ever had! When we have guests, most everyone asks about it.

https://lifeboostcoffee.com/

 

I know people run on different schedules, but that level of anger and I don't even know what at 6 AM is astounding.