OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. Trail Rhino

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    I’ve been reading posts in this thread and this is my first time sharing my opinion on this publicly. I’ve seen a few posters mention their frustrations with Americans and the US vaccine hesitancy, but I can assure you, the conspiracy news and frustration you’re experiencing is a global issue.

    I moved out of the US about 15 years ago, and I honestly can’t wait to move back to the US. (that’s another topic)

    I’ve experienced a ton of vaccine hesitancy personally from where I live now, as well as from others back in the US. From friends, family members, rich people, poor people, and staff members. It’s from all walks of life.

    For the life of me, I don’t understand how quickly some people are to believe random or alternative news, because of their mistrust for those in government or power. I can understand the mistrust in the government, but doctors? Doctors can no longer be trusted either apparently, so we’ll self medicate instead?

    I’ve personally known 3 people that have died from Covid, including my father-in-law that passed before a vaccine was available. Yet, I’ve known no one that has actually died from the vaccine.

    Don’t we have laws for travel, for drinking, for smoking, for wearing clothes in public, among many other things? It is frustrating to say the least.

    The US has it’s problems like any other country, but it’s an amazing place despite its issues.

    This is a global issue unfortunately and equally as frustrating. I just wanted to share my perspective.

    Common sense is not so common.
     
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  2. SlyPokerDog

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    Thanks for posting that.
     
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    Could DNA vaccines be the next tool in the world’s battle against COVID-19?
    India last month said that it had created the world’s first DNA vaccine, ZyCoV-D. While standard vaccines use actual 'hardware' protein, DNA vaccines use the 'software' blueprint of the virus.

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    A man receives a dose of the COVISHIELD vaccine against the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), manufactured by Serum Institute of India, inside a passenger bus in Ahmedabad, India, September 23, 2021
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    India last month began boasting that it has created – and its regulatory body approved – the world’s first DNA vaccine, ZyCoV-D.

    The vaccine, developed by a company called Zydus Cadila, expects to have it available for use as early as next month, giving hope to a country that has suffered more than 447,000 deaths at the hand of the virus.

    What is a DNA vaccine and could this new class of vaccination become the next tool in the world’s fight against COVID-19?



    A DNA vaccine is a form of a software vaccine, explained Tel Aviv University’s Prof. Jonathan Gershoni.

    A software vaccine is one in which scientists vaccinate with the blueprint of the virus – just the DNA or the RNA corresponding to the genes that code for the spike protein – injecting it in a palatable and effective way into the body. The cells then synthesize the viral protein, which leads to the production of antibodies against the viral spike.

    This is as opposed to a hardware vaccine, which actually contains hardware, that is physical bits and pieces of the virus protein.
    [​IMG] A WOMAN receives a third dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, at Meuhedet vaccination center in Jerusalem, last week. (credit: YONATAN SINDEL/FLASH90)

    “You can have a hardware vaccine that consists of a killed virus, for example, or an attenuated virus,” Gershoni explained. “Or you can have a subunit vaccine as well, such as the vaccine for Hepatitis B, which is just purified spike protein.

    “The immune system identifies the presence of the viral protein… and that stimulates the immune system to respond and make highly specific targeted antibodies that inactivate the virus.”

    All of the traditional childhood vaccines that exist today are hardware vaccines.

    However, since the late 1980s, scientists began playing with the idea that there could be applications for injecting DNA or RNA directly – first, in trying to develop gene therapy, and more recently, in the development of what Gershoni calls software vaccines.

    “We know that the information flow in biology goes like this: the genetic material is stored in a very stable molecule, double-stranded DNA,” Gershoni said. “However, the information that flows from the gene needs to be transcribed to create a disposable and intermediate genetic material in the form of RNA. So, RNA in the traditional sense, is simply a disposable copy of the DNA gene.”

    However, it is the RNA and not the DNA that is able to interact with the protein manufacturing machinery, known as ribosomes. The ribosomes are what recognize the RNA and systematically translate the genetic material, which is written in the language of RNA, into the hardware – that is to say, the protein.

    “The hardware is the protein and the instruction manuals, the recipes that tell us how to make these proteins, can be either in DNA or RNA,” he said. “DNA or RNA, therefore, fall under the category of software vaccines.”

    In the beginning, scientists favored DNA because it is far less finicky than RNA, which breaks down easily. But on the other hand, the RNA is a more direct way of delivering the instruction manual because the ribosomes cannot interact with the DNA. As such, in systems that use DNA as the genetic material being transferred, the next required step, once the DNA has been delivered to the cells, is that those cells have to make RNA copies of the genes. Only then can the RNA copy of the foreign DNA be translated by the ribosomes to produce the target protein that can then stimulate the correct immune response.

    “Injecting RNA in some respects is more efficient,” Gershoni said.

    Both the Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines, for example, are RNA vaccines.

    Despite the claims coming from India, there are other DNA vaccines already on the market. They are just packaged differently.

    The AstraZeneca, Sputnik V and Johnson & Johnson vaccines all contain DNA of the spike protein as their active ingredient. These vaccines, Gershoni explained, take the DNA of the coronavirus spike protein and package it inside the DNA of a safe virus called Adenovirus.

    These vaccines deliver the gene for the spike protein via the Adenovirus that infects human cells but does not cause any noticeable or harmful disease.

    “If we take a virus like that and manipulate its genes and swap some of the genes of the viral vector with the gene for the coronavirus spike, when such viral vectors infect our cells they are manipulated and produce the coronavirus spike protein, which then stimulates the production of antibodies against coronavirus,” Gershoni further explained.

    So what is the difference, given that the India vaccine also contains DNA and is a DNA virus?

    What differentiates the Indian vaccine is that it contains much less DNA and is not packaged in a viral vector. The Indian DNA stands alone.

    “What they have done is taken a small, circular piece of DNA called a plasmid and incorporated into this plasmid a piece of DNA that corresponds to the 1,200 amino acids of the coronavirus spike protein,” Gershoni said.

    The plasmid that they are using in ZyCoV-D is a plasmid from the 1990s called pVAX1 a commercially available plasmid DNA whose total size is only about 3,000 letters (nucleotide base pairs).

    In this case, the DNA is not wrapped or packaged in anything but directly injected into the arm, something referred to as “naked DNA.”

    This is the first plasmid DNA vaccine that has been authorized for human use. Gershoni said that there have been veterinary applications of plasmid DNA used in the past.

    It is also different from the other vaccines because it is delivered intradermally, meaning it is injected without a needle via a high-pressure stream of liquid containing the DNA.

    The ZyCoV-D regimen is three shots, each 28 days apart. The phase III trial found the vaccine’s efficacy to be less than 70%.

    Gershoni said that although some people have expressed concern with DNA vaccines, which must enter the nucleus of the cell to be transcribed and generate the RNA and therefore could theoretically impact a person’s chromosomes, there is no obvious mechanistic reason why this should occur.

    He said that an effort was made to streamline the DNA, “make it as compact, clean and mean and with as little extra DNA as possible.

    “Whereas people around the world may be concerned and debating whether this DNA vaccine is a good idea,” Gershoni continued, “we have been blessed in Israel with RNA vaccines. So under no circumstances should theoretical arguments about DNA safety be used in Israel. They are simply not relevant.”

    https://www.jpost.com/international...-in-the-worlds-battle-against-covid-19-680371
     
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    COVID-19 pandemic cut life expectancy by most since World War Two –study

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    LONDON, Sept 27 (Reuters) - The COVID-19 pandemic reduced life expectancy in 2020 by the largest amount since World War Two, according to a study published on Monday by Oxford University, with the life expectancy of American men dropping by more than two years.

    Life expectancy fell by more than six months compared with 2019 in 22 of the 29 countries analysed in the study, which spanned Europe, the United States and Chile. There were reductions in life expectancy in 27 of the 29 countries overall.

    The university said most life expectancy reductions across different countries could be linked to official COVID-19 deaths. There have been nearly 5 million reported deaths caused by the new coronavirus so far, a Reuters tally shows.

    "The fact that our results highlight such a large impact that is directly attributable to COVID-19 shows how devastating a shock it has been for many countries," said Dr Ridhi Kashyap, co-lead author of the paper, published in the International Journal of Epidemiology.


    There were greater drops in life expectancy for men than women in most countries, with the largest decline in American men, who saw life expectancy drop by 2.2 years relative to 2019.

    Overall, men had more than a year shaved off in 15 countries, compared to women in 11 countries. That wiped out the progress on mortality that had been made in the previous 5.6 years.

    In the United States, the rise in mortality was mainly among those of working age and those under 60, while in Europe, deaths among people aged over 60 contributed more significantly to the increase in mortality.

    Kashyap appealed to more countries, including low- and middle-income nations, to make mortality data available for further studies.


    “We urgently call for the publication and availability of more disaggregated data to better understand the impacts of the pandemic globally,” she said.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/he...by-most-since-world-war-two-study-2021-09-26/
     
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    Do you know it's against the law hurting self too.
     
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  11. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Why Sly, I'm impressed. Did you actually coauthor this study?
     
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    Or maybe this should be done to the opposite group. If you have hitlerslike ideas like that, why not to try it on yourself first?
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Here's the difference, which should be as clear as the nose on your face, the vaccinated with masks on pose no threat to you but you are asking the vaccinated to risk their lives by being around you. And if everyone got vaccinated we wouldn't even need masks. No, you have no right to risk my life just to make you a tad more comfortable. It's kind of like cigarette smoke. People once believed they had a God given right to blow smoke in your face and possibly give you cancer. Those of us who didn't smoke got sick and tired of smokers taking advantage of us.
    Those of us who are vaccinated have a God given right to breathe clean air free of smoke and free of Covid-19 disease. Go and infect yourselves and leave us alone.
     
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    i know (suicide) is against gods law, but not any other law
     
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    What point are you trying to make with this graphic? None? That the vax works?

    Vaccines and masks have suppressed the numbers. We all knew that the vaccines were not going to 100% COVID. Vaccines and masks suppress COVID spread. Ergo, if enough folks did one and/or the other, you suppress COVID and its' spread. Which might not have totally rid us of COVID, but we'll never know because of a bunch of selfish individuals. But if we all cared about our neighbors and our fellow mankind rather than just ourselves, we'd have all done more to play our part.
     
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    Ultra-Vaxxed Israel’s Crisis Is a Dire Warning to America

    JERUSALEM—The massive surge of COVID-19 infections in Israel, one of the most vaccinated countries on earth, is pointing to a complicated path ahead for America.

    “I don’t want to frighten you,” coronavirus czar Dr. Salman Zarka told the Israeli parliament this week. “But this is the data. Unfortunately, the numbers don’t lie.”

    “It is a combination of waning immunity, so that inoculated people get reinfected, and at the same time the very transmissible Delta variant.”
     
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    Israel is not ultra vaccinated. Only 62% of eligible people are fully vaccinated, that's less than California (71%). Add the fact that Israel has started with vaccines earlier - and what we are seeing there is exactly what is expected.

    California has about 4 times the population of Israel but has a lower population density overall (although the big urban areas are similar in their density), yet California now averages 1/3 of the new daily cases as Israel.

    In other words, vaccines work, and as can be expected, with time, vaccine need to be boosted.

    Get vaccinated people.
     
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    I like how this message has to be repeated over and over. Kinda like how the virus works. You have to get boosters just like you have to keep reminding folks about the information out there.

    And even with breakthrough cases, people still aren't understanding how even if you are a breakthrough case, you are far less likely to end up in the hospital/ICU/ventilator.
     
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