OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

Too bad the vaccine doesn't prevent people from being a virus vector...

 

From what I’ve read, there are vaccines in development that may accomplish that. The ones currently in use were designed primarily to prevent serious illness. They’re injected and build a strong immune response that protects lungs and other internal organs, but they don’t do a great job of protecting the mucus membranes in the throat and nose. As a result, the virus can sometimes still get into those areas and start multiplying. It typically takes the body’s immune system a few days to stem the infection. Nasal spray vaccines are in development that could resolve this problem. In the meantime, the current vaccines are still good at reducing community spread and, you know, dying.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih...sal-covid-19-vaccine-effective-animal-studies

 

Yo might read that again. 1.6% is the claimed death rate for all ages catching covid and dying from it. Not from the vaccine. The claimed vaccine death rate is at worst .002% (also over represented, and mostly incredibly old and sick people). Which is half your claimed covid-19 death rate for 18-29.

From the CDC

And these are just reports. These are not confirmed. And nearly all of these were people who were already old and sick.

They are not making a personal risk assessment. They are putting the community at greater risk. That community should be able to choose if and where they want to allow that risk to exist. Each infected person typically infects multiple others. And every unvaccinated person is at least 2x more likely to be infected than each vaccinated person (in fact, there is data showing vaccinated people are 5x less likely to be infected).

Again, this is math, but if the vaccinated are 5x less likely to catch covid then they are 25x less likely to spread covid-19 to another vaccinated person.

If our hospital load from covid was reduced by a factor of 25 this pandemic would be over. But it would also be over if it were reduced by a factor of 4, which are the most pessimistic estimates.

Actually, even if the virus stayed in the vaxed person's system for just as long the pandemic would still be over and covid-19 would cease being a threat. But since we can agree that the vaxed aren't contagious even half as long, you can double the benefits of vaccination that I listed above.

The math is so overwhelmingly against your stance... so, so frustrating.

 

This isn't the same as your prior claim. Because a vaccinated person can infect others, doesn't mean one typically does. There is more data needed to determine that.

Once you look at that additional data it becomes a far more clear picture, as I described above.

This is why we pay epidemiologists to gather and examine many types of data from many sources.

 

Yep. I like this.

 

Everything is just noise like fucking Covid molecules in your nose or even transmission and so on.

who. Is. Dying? Who is in the ICU?

 

Exactly.
Surprise! It's the same people who are keeping community spread to epidemic proportions... hence the mandates.

 

It’s insane. Suddenly people care about molecules and mRNA and everything that goes into their bodies. They are all just excuses to be anti-vax or anti-establishment and “don’t tread on me” people. That’s it. They have no idea what they are talking about. But they won’t be told what to do.

 

Especially if the patients are only treated with anti-science medications like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin?

 

Whatever they choose. I don't care as long as responsible members of society are no longer at greater than necessary risk due to politically driven misinformation largely driven by Facebook bot farms in eastern Europe.

 

My wife's company is using new technology to limit each employee being in the office for 2 days of the week and work the rest from home - and since they work in a large industrial area that is connected to a warehouse - they keep the huge warehouse doors open for ventilation.

It sure feels like Bill Gates 5G thing, for sure.

 

True. It also does not give them untold riches, makes them sexier and have their shit smell like roses.

It does (a) help make them a lot less likely to get infected and (b) if so less likely to have adverse responses.

Because of (a) - there are a lot less that can become a virus vector, so that's good, because of (b) they are less likely to have adverse response, clog hospitals, so that's good.

Get vaccinated, people.

 

I've been working with an Architecture firm recently and noticed that they have had a lot of HVAC upgrade projects lately, especially schools.

 

Part of my position entails being a supplier of industrial ducting.
The increase in sales for companies doing upgrades has been insane! We have already doubled last years gross revenue in that sector of our business.