OT Canzano: NASCAR to Portland is a win for the sports scene and city

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  1. Orion Bailey

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    do you know what percent of the annual gas consumption in the united states is used for Nascar?
     
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    Anyone not liking nascar.
    Have you ever drivin go carts on a track?

    if so, was it fun?

    if so, then really not fair to dis nascar. Its just a supercharged adult go cart.

    pats 50 acres in canby has one of the best around.
     
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    Frankly, this is not any different (and probably much better) than huge ships carrying plastic toys across the oceans or people boarding jet planes to go to a meeting. I am sure if you list the "pleasures" you enjoy - we can find tons of waste that happens to support them. Racing is just a low-hanging fruit for people.

    Most racing series work hard to become more and more environmentally friendly (I assume NASCAR does as well, not sure as I am not really following them). Formula 1 was very early onto Hybrid technology with the KERS system of the late 2000s and early 2010s and the move to the turbo-hybrid era in 2014, 2025 is the next set of engine regulations which will move to have 50% of the power come from electricity (it is likely only 20% now) and the fuel is getting more and more environmentally friendly.

    If anything, big league racing series that have such intense technological development and "extreme" testing (racing) often sees trickle down for some elements to road cars which helps in different ways, from safety to handling to environmental issues - the MGU-H system in F1 helped making turbochargers a lot more efficient - which helped seeing so many of today's car having small 4 cylinder turbo-charged engines instead of big, inefficient larger engines of the past.
     
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    We should have a forum race at Pat's Acres.

    I WOULD DESTROY ALL OF YOU!
     
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    Sykart would be better.

    I could put all of you in the wall!

    http://www.sykart.com/tigard/
     
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    In my opinion...far too much...Australia has an electric car race circuit...there's a guy over the hill from my place who thinks our road is a Nascar racetrack...he's got a new Corvette with glass packs that wake up the woods...irritates the hell out of me...growing up in Iowa Nascar is huge and most of the kids I grew up around were into hot rods....I was the nerd with the six cylinder Dodge Dart.....never enjoyed fast moving metal projectiles..as it turns out a lot of my high school classmates lost their lives early from high speed crashes....you can get some serious speed built up on those long straight roads.Few things entertain me less than cars. Also it's not even the fuel as much as the burning rubber they go through racing cars...melting tires to the point you need new ones to finish a race
     
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    how can you say far too much without knowing the number?

    what if its less than 1% but its 5% of gas guzzling trucks in metro areas that do not need a truck(they dont haul anything)for anything but to drive a big truck around?

    wouldn't the issue be more on those who need a big truck for image reasons over nascar events?
     
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    ill add that my mother thought i was super odd when i spent my scholarship money on a four door sedan instead of some hotrod or truck. ;)
     
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    I'd wonder what consumes more fuel: Nascar or 30 NBA teams jetting around the country for 6 months
     
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    30 duck-sized horses.
     
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    Bro go to Sky Cart. It's a blast.
     
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    Closed wheel carts > open wheel carts!
     
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    That track at Skycart is fun. You are not supposed to bump people but it's pretty much a moral imperative.
     
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    never even heard of it until today.
    Ill check it out. There is a nice indoor one up near federal way(tacoma?) i was at it about a decade ago. Lounge with a cafe.
    But umm i flipped my cart taking a corner too tight and rode my right tire right up the barrel and over i went! Lol

    there is something to be said about dealing with the elements though, banked curves and what not.
    When i was a kid and my parents would take us to ocean shores alot i remember just sending all day at the gocart track and not even hitting the beach!


    If i wasn't such a big ass dude i could have been a nascar driver! Lol
     
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    You ever race at Hot Track in Vancouver years ago?
     
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    I think gas usage should produce something like move goods or deliver building materials....just burning it up to drive in circles as fast as possible is not the best use of gasoline....I think it's an incredible waste but I also think driving two blocks to get a gallon of milk is a big waste...we're a gas guzzling culture. my truck is parked unless it's moving material like straw or manure,etc...it's all just a life style for me that I've followed all my life...I use gasoline but I also have a Prius and a 4 wheel drive XTerra....the XTerra is my fishing rig and has my kayak racks so I use it to bring fish to the freezer or get down the mountain in the snow....my mechanic is a Nascar guy who has a crew and races down in Roseburg on weekends...I know it's popular and my lack of interest won't change that anytime soon...I'm sure it'll be a popular thing in Portland if it happens.
     
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    i just picked up a 2008 xterra to tow my boat!
    Most people in outlying areas own trucks for practical reasons.
    You wouldn't believe how many large trucks in the city are just used as a commuter vehicle. or maybe you would… but its alot.

    And im willing to bet, across the nation, those driving trucks that could otherwise drive a car uses alot more fuel annually than nascar.

    Did you see the link i posted about nascar fuel consumption and the minimal effects compared to the nations current usage?

    Alot more usage also goes to our heavily outdated trucking industry.
    Im just saying, if the economy is a factor, nascar is not near the culprit of some other things going on regarding fuel consumption.
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