OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

AGAIN. No vaccine is 100% effective but it lowers the likely-hood of you getting it, even if you're 18-29, thus lowering the likely-hood that you'll pass it on to more vulnerable demographics.

It lowers the likely-hood of you getting infected by a factor of five, so the chance you spread it to others as a healthcare practitioner is similarly reduced. Not to mention the length of time you're contagious is shorter. Does that make sense? It lowers the likely-hood. If you were actually thinking logically you would understand this. If you were unbiased you'd be accepting the facts that have been posted by other users this very morning. I can't really figure out how to make it clearer.

But we do agree on one thing, people aren't going to change their minds at this point, unless they or a family member/friend get extremely sick or die. Until then, it's best to dig into your ignorance and pretend you know what you're talking about.

Typically I'm your body your choice, but in this case it's been and continues to be a community health-issue, and given the many facts that I and others have given, it's simply a no-brainer if you care about others. And that's especially true for those who deal closely with many doctor/hospital patients a day. The downside is so rare it's negligible, and the upside can save serious illnesses and even death.

 

I accidentally went to the first page of this thread and saw this. I remember the good old days when people downplayed the virus like it was the flu. We're still hitting that number every three days. Some people just like to be proven wrong over and over and over. There's always a new argument they hear on the TV that they cling to.

 

So reduce that by a factor of 4 and you're looking at less than 38% capacity. Reduce it by a factor of 25 and you're sitting at about 6% capacity...

The math is not hard.

 

I gained a solid 1.5 inches length and diameter after the covid vaccine. Best thing I ever did. Now I got super models just clinging to me.

It works. Even Nicki Manaj will tell you it works.

 

Wow. I'm kind of surprised he hasn't deleted that one...

 

I kid you not. A few months ago I was being told off by a lady who's "Father just died WITH covid-19, not OF covid-19". She was incredibly emotional, abusive, and 100% convinced that covid-19 couldn't have killed her dad.

After all, it's just like the flu. Or a cold.

 

When the story of the COVID-19 pandemic is written, it will need to include several chapters — perhaps several volumes — about the unintended consequences of our actions taken in response.

Childhood obesity, reports the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, has risen sharply during the pandemic.

According to a paper recently circulated by the agency, body mass index (the measure of weight relative to height) in a sample of 430,000 children increased between March and November 2020 at nearly double the rate that it did before the pandemic began.

Unsurprisingly, elementary-aged children and children who were already overweight or obese (and therefore most at risk) experienced the greatest increases.

Another recent study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association had similar findings, reporting that the portion of children ages 5-11 who are classified as overweight or obese is now a whopping 45.7 percent, up from 36.2 percent before the pandemic.

These numbers are alarming in and of themselves, because childhood obesity often presages obesity as an adult and carries with it a whole host of other, often serious, health problems.

But the rise in obesity is also disturbing given what we know about its relationship to the public health crisis at hand: Aside from age, obesity is the most common health condition associated with severe COVID cases, hospitalization and death.

One body of research found that people with obesity who contracted COVID were 113 percent more likely than people of healthy weight to land in the hospital, 74 percent more likely to be admitted to an intensive-care unit, and 48 percent more likely to die.

Child mortality due to COVID is (thankfully) still vanishingly small, but obesity is a common condition of those who have succumbed to the illness.

Yet throughout the pandemic, our collective public response has not just been to ignore the crisis of obesity but in subtle ways to encourage it.

We need only to think how early on in the COVID crisis, states and localities shuttered public parks, filled skate parks with sand, removed nets from basketball hoops, canceled local sports leagues and required universal mask-wearing outdoors, even in the heat of summer when masks made breathing difficult and being outside onerous.

These policies and practices may have seemed justifiable early on, but they inexplicably continued in many places even after it was well-established that the virus does not spread easily in outdoor settings.

And the bizarre government promotion of poor health practices hasn’t stopped there.

Since the vaccines have been widely available, public officials have partnered with businesses and organizations to entice the public to get vaccinated with offers of free beer, doughnuts and fast food.

Who can forget (however much you might like to) Mayor Bill de Blasio gorging himself on Shake Shack on live TV in an effort to get New Yorkers to vaccinate and “protect” their health?

When small children become vaccine-eligible, the appetite for employing the same kinds of kitschy tactics to encourage them to get the shot will be strong. But political and health leaders should resist it.

In the meantime, they should focus their efforts on finding ways to keep kids healthy — protecting them not just from COVID, but also from the cascade of damaging health consequences our poor policies have contributed to.

 

Getting them vaccinated will allow them to go back to attending more activities. Vaccination is the solution to get back where we were before covid-19. However, we should certainly be changing the kinds of food we're subsidizing so kids eat less junk.

 

Wait. Kids can get the vaccine? I thought it wasn't available yet for kids?

not sure how that helps this report if its eventually going to be available, but hasn't been thus far:

 

Wait. Who is going to subsidize childrens diets?
A government policy?

something i mentioned and was laughed at and mocked when i said we should work on improving diets with taxation on bad foods?

Hhhmmmmm…..

 

I said the government should stop subsidizing junk food.

 

12 and older can currently get the vaccine. FDA could approve vaccines for 5-12 year-olds sometime in October.

 

So basically irrelevant to the report posted. Got it.

 

so government should control the diet by not subsidizing junk food. And they offer alternatives how? Through higher taxes to help pay for better food?

So a government controlled diet through taxation to fund the school lunches?


Hhhhmmmmmmm……

 

If the pandemic is what caused the increase in obesity, getting the kids back to normal lifestyles should return them to their pre-pandemic BMI. Calories in/ Calories out.

Vaccines would accomplish this.

So, directly related to the report posted.

 

Im thinking someone has never tried going on a diet and has no clue how easy it is to put on 50 lbs but how hard it is to lose it……

 

Just stop making junk food insanely cheap. The government already funds school lunches. If the government wants to fully fund school lunches I'd support that. In fact, it's happening in schools this very year. Every child in school gets free breakfast and lunch. At least, in Oregon.

By removing the subsidies on corn syrup and other junk food you would remove much of the incentive for people to buy it.

 

how would you make junk food more expensive? With taxation?

Government provides food based on the funding. To say they are fully funded is only relative to the grocery list of which they are purchasing. Healthier foods cost more.
So if they are already fully funded. To increase the health of the food, they would presumably require more funding. Which means more taxes.

which is what i brought up that many people made fun of and mocked.