Trade Larry Nance Jr traded to Portland

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  1. Orion Bailey

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    Dame
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    If we can fill that question mark with a stud or find a rajon Rhondo and slide Ant to the two,

    i think thats very solid and very interchangeable.
    Id give up cj and 3, 1sts to make it happen. But nothin more.
    Our firsts will be back end rounders if this happened because we’d be contenders. So they wont be as big a deal as if we were a lottery team.

    make it happen. Cj and three firsts aNd maintain our depth and versatility.
     
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    Ant is likely playing both backup guard spots mixed in with Norm playing a little backup two and RoCo playing a little backup 3.
     
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    Give them CJ, the 3 unprotected, and 2 swaps. Get it done with. Bucks up 3 picks for Jrue and won the title.
     
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    I think people are vastly overrating the value of pick swaps. Could you end up giving up the #1 overall pick? Sure, it's theoretically possible--it's also theoretically possible to trade CJ for Giannis and end up regretting it if Giannis suffers a career-ending injury the next day. You don't value something by the worst possible scenario you can construct. The expected value of a pick swap, especially years out, is pretty close to 0...the further you move from the current situation, the likelier it is that both teams are somewhere in the middle of the draft. When the starting point for both teams (considering the 76ers will be losing one of their two regular season stars) is already probably around the middle of the draft, that's even more true.

    Could the Blazers lose Lillard and end up tanking for several years? Yes, that's possible. It's also possible that Simmons elevates them and they're an easy playoff team for the next four or five years, nearly assuring that those pick swaps are valueless. I think the second scenario is likelier than the first.

    Pick swaps are so popular because rules prohibit trading more first-round picks unless you want to go something like a decade into the future (you can't be without a first round pick two years in a row) and so swaps are the next level of draft capital--but they're lottery tickets, not highly valuable assets in and of themselves.
     
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    If the picks they swap are top 8 protected, and there aren't other picks involved, that's not horrible.
     
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    When Dame retires the difference between having Simmons or not having him is how high our lotto pick is. He might make the team significantly better playing with Dame (note I said "might"), but he is not an alpha wolf who can carry a team. What team has won a title with their best player being a defensive specialist?
     
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    would kobe and mj be considered defensive specialists? I know they were elite offensively but they were also great defenders.
    I get your point though.
     
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    Pistons/Ben?
     
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    A fair pick. He was certainly the leader of the team, though that was one of the most balanced teams I have ever seen.
     
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    only squad I envied. Their starting 5 was perfect.
     
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    Hmmmmm? Maybe the Bucks?
     
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    Russell's Celtics. Different era, I know, but still...
     
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    Say what? Walton was a very effective offensive player.
     
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    Giannis is a very dangerous scorer.
     
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    He was a superb defensive player first, bs’s and defensive boards. He was also mvp of the finals and season.
     
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    Defensive player of the year. Not a great shooter. Shoots in the 60's percentage wise from free throw. Sounds fairly familiar doesn't it?
     

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