Trade Ben Simmons poll

I’m all for trading CJ like I said, I just think we can do better than Simmons. And even if we make that trade, it’s gonna come with a lot of risk. It’s not as foolproof as some make it out to be imo.

 

I have not read one person say its foolproof. Maybe no brainer, far from foolproof…

 

Amen! If this is the new business model for the NBA the fans are the ultimate losers.

 

This is who he is, is the point

 

I think, what Morey is really hoping is that Simmons will give him another excuse to suspend him. Can't do it if Simmons is claiming his back is hurt

 

If he’s not he’s borderline, look at current players is Curry or Dame superstars even though they are only good on one side of the game? Simmons is superstar defensively he’s a top 2 defensive player in entire NBA. You don’t have to like the guy but he’s superstar

 

possibly. But he is still 24 right?

i know i still grew and matured a bunch from 24-30.

i just dont think he is unfixable in a nontoxic situation.

 

VORP (2020)
Curry: #3
Lillard: #5
Simmons: #38

DRPM
Simmons: #31

Now I realize defensive metrics are flawed, but Simmons definitely isn’t a top 2 defensive player, and when it comes to overall value he’s not in Dame and Curry’s zip code. I’d say he’s a top 10 defensive player, and a top 20 overall player at best. That’s not a superstar.

 

I think we can't even do as well as Simmons.

 

we can find someone that actually fits the team better. I’m not talking about individually.

 

Such as?

 

OK, I brought this up before, but it is time for a revisit.

If we did trade for Simmons, what position should he play? If the answer is anything other than PG will he be OK with it?

Not to sound like a broken record, but if CJ becomes the PG in Philly it's a safe bet his assist totals will jump. If Simmons plays any other position in Portland his assist totals will fall. I honestly think Simmons' rep as a playmaker has been somewhat inflated by his role. If he switches position/situation he will have to find another way to carry his weight on offense. I know others disagree, but I still see this pretty much as a straight offense-for-defense swap.

 

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Can any of that be because of the system hes been misused in?

 

let’s see which coward blinks first.

 

We've got out of the first round three times recently and to the conference finals 2 years ago.

I would like us to go further, so I'm not saying I'm satisfied and the team should do nothing to improve.

However some fans act like the last 10 years have been the worst period to ever be a Blazer fan. They should go rewatch those pre Brandon Roy Blazer years or the Felton year.

After 1977, the Clyde finals and Sheed WCF teams the last 10 years are with any of the best periods of the franchise and also having the franchise best player ever. I and many other wouldn't label that purgatory.

 

Simmons will break first. He has not been shy about spending his money. He has earned approximately $54M so far in his career, so he has probably taken home half of that at most, so $27M. Dood bought a $17M home in July...missing an $8M pay day probably hurts quite a bit. I'd bet he doesn't have the stones to go the entire season. If Morey and ownership are willing to wait it out, they will win get him back on the court. Now the effort Simmons puts in, who knows.

 

All he has to do is have "back spasms" and he'll collect the full paycheck.

 

yeah, that’s the next step. He’s gonna start dogging it on the court, kinda like Harden did. Morey can say whatever he wants. I’d be surprised if Simmons wasn’t traded sometime during the season.