OT LeBron James said Kyle Rittenhouse should 'knock it off' after the teen cried during murder trial

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  1. Buffalo Custard

    Buffalo Custard Well-Known Member

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    OK, one last try.

    Using your analogy - you think I want to outlaw cars and I think you want to legalize drunk driving. Even if both notions are wrong it makes discussion hopeless as long as we cling to those views.
     
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  2. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Lol. That's what I said. I said you said don't outlaw things because of outlaws not the contrary which Barfo seemed to think.

    Anyway.

    I agree that if we outlaw guns it will take guns away from responsible people and they won't be able to defend themselves with a gun against bad people who have guns.

    I'm not advocating outlawing guns. I have only said there is a huge gun problem and many many people are being gunned down everyday.

    One solution among many is not to allow unresponsible people to walk around with assault rifles that end up killing people.
     
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    I have zero problem with him getting busted for having a gun. Why do we think everyone should have firearm? Is it unreasonable to say hey, you can have a gun but if you break laws and get in trouble you lose the right to possess something that kills people.
     
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    im saying dont outlaw guns because it leaves good people defenseless.
     
  5. Orion Bailey

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    okay. Well then this whole back and forth was moot. You agree with what i said. Lol. Barfo doesn't. He chose to bow out of the convo rather than try to provide more input to firm up his stance…

    making it hard to have a real conversation… as usual.
     
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  6. Chris Craig

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    Yes, against outlaws. So don't outlaw things because of outlaws.
     
  7. Chris Craig

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    And that's ok
     
  8. Orion Bailey

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    No!
    Thats not what i said that he said that i said i meant what he meant and you misunderstood what he meant that i was understanding and responding too.

    Got it now??

    if you understand this… your a genius!
     
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    until the same people point the finger at me as not being able to hold a conversation… that shit gets old…
     
  10. Chris Craig

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    Ok, I suppose even if guns are outlawed....good people might still have them even if it's illegal to do so.
     
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  11. Chris Craig

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    Hey you tried and barfo tried. You two just couldn't reach an understanding. That happens.
     
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    arent all things banned or outlawed because of outlaws? Or people who break the law, regardless?
     
  13. Chris Craig

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    It would probably help to read it all when I'm not exhausted from a long day of work.
     
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  14. Chris Craig

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    I suppose...or to stop people from doing those things, but I guess those people would be outlaws...so yeah
     
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    He didn't do anything wrong with the gun. He made a u-turn and smelled like weed.

    Allowing police to go after people like that is how you encourage police to unfairly target poor and minority populations.

    Not cool at all, IMO.

    If he threatened somebody with the gun or was stalking somebody, found guilty of domestic abuse, etc... Then sure. That's a violent and/or dangerous person who should have their rights restricted.

    But just because they get a speeding ticket with a gun? No way.
     
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    But, the gun was illegal. If he legally owned it and had a permit, that's different. You break a law there should be consquence. You could argue what that consquence should be. A prison sentence? What's too long of a sentence? Maybe just confiscate the gun, but then there is no consquence other than losing a gun he will easily replace.

    I understand and agree with your argument about racial profiling. Smelling pot is cause for searching a car for drugs in most states. If while searching the car, something else illegal is found, should there not be consquences?

    Cops could and probably do say they smell pot even if they don't, especially in cases of racial profiling so they can have a reason to search a car. That is bullshit and should be rooted out. But how? We will never be able to get rid of all the bad cops. Legalizing /decriminalizing weed, so it can't be used as a reason?

    These unhonest cops have other excuses up their sleeves. They say they were swerving and suspect them of intoxication or create a situation to make the person they pulled over as being combative and go with that.

    Get rid off all the dishonest cops? Is it possible with enough accountability?

    This is a complex issue
     
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    I will always own firearms. Regardless of legality.

    When you need police right that second they are only minutes away.
     
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    But, then you become an outlaw. A good outlaw? A gunslinger?
     
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  19. Chris Craig

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    And I think maybe that was what @barfo was getting at. Just because you outlaw it, doesn't mean good people aren't going to do it. Do they become outlaws? Maybe?
     
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    Good point. But why was the gun illegal? What was illegal about it?

    It was loaded. In his truck. That's it.

    NYs gun laws are far too strict, and that's why I use it as an example. In fact, that overreach is going to end up getting the Supreme Court to expand gun rights.
     

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