OT LeBron James said Kyle Rittenhouse should 'knock it off' after the teen cried during murder trial

You do know there are other countries in this world, right? You do know states have instituted gun control, right?

 

And after taking that drastic action Australia still has shootings, still has mass murders (granted, none as bad as their largest ever), and their violent crime and murder rates dropped almost the same as ours did here in the US.

The UK went through a similar change as Australia at about the same time. Similar results.

All while we let the assault weapons ban expire, and more than doubled the number of guns in our country.

If guns were the catalyst our trends over the same timeline wouldn't have been possible.

It's almost like the economic growth and stability all 3 countries experienced over that time frame had far more to do with violent crime and murder rates than the number of and access to guns did...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate_by_decade

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-1

http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?dataset=crim_off_cat&lang=en

http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/auss...8BCDCF9DCA2578B700119690/$File/45100_2010.pdf

 

Bottom line - compare the US to like-countries, not Central American or the Caribbean, and then tell me the US doesn’t have a problem or stand out. Not talking about totals, but per capita. We get it- some of you like guns. And I’m sure you’re all the ideal gun owners but this isn’t about you. This is about the fact that people in America are obsessed with guns and deathly afraid of broaching the subject and implement some stricter laws.

 

Same people who own guns and constantly fear the government taking them away are often the same people who fall into the category of political extremism as well.

IE: People who fear their government and are exceptionally passionate/dispassionate about political beliefs or groups.

 

Individual states having gun control works as well as a smoking section on a plane.

STOMP

 

About as well as any gun control would work here in the US. But good point.

So show me all of the countries who've seen drastic improvement after instituting gun control?

 

Tax breaks for gun owners owning/purchasing gun safes.

 

Stricter laws have been tried and they don't work. The states with the lowest crime rates have the most guns.

There is not even correlation, let alone causation.

 

Love it. Though there is no shortage of gun safes, but I like it.

 

So they buy a 200 safe and get a tax break worth more than that, and don’t use the safe? Fuck that. So now we are paying people to do what they should be doing?

 

Yeah, gun safes aren't the problem either. Most gun owners have a gun safe.

 

Maybe it should be more structured like
-If taxpayer claims independents
-And Taxpayer owns a gun
-And Taxpayer buys a gun safe
-Then Taxpayer gets Break of x

Basically, if you have children, and you own a gun, and you buy a gun safe - the gun safe company will not give you a% off for having children, but the government will.

 

Idk, maybe anybody who is staunchly in defense of this kid who has killed others with a gun could also think about gun violence and youth in America.

Look at the history, in your lifetime. I don’t need to name specific events, you can remember them yourself and if you can’t then that is evidence of an issue.

 

Flash powder used in photography and cinematography is proof that we ourselves as humanity realized that our use of gunpowder as a means of weaponry in warfare was wrong, and subconsciously sought to find non violent avenues for its use.

Convince me otherwise.

 

I'm not sure who's staunchly in defense of this kid. If there is evidence showing he assaulted them he should be in jail. I haven't seen that evidence.

If there is evidence that they assaulted him then he acted in self defense. I've seen that footage, and it appears the prosecution had better footage of that than they showed the court. So... It just seems like the prosecution is kind of crooked.

The judge ruled that the kid didn't break any laws by having the gun, so none of that matters. Why he was there doesn't matter.

Who attacked who is all that matters.

 

Nah, bullshit

Why did you drive to Portland from Newberg when you knew that the situation was hostile.

PS - If I’m your lawyer I’m telling you to claim it was to give medical aid because that’s the only thing which makes any semblance of sense, and it is a clear attempt at eliciting empathetic response from the observers and jury.

Its astonishing to me.

Cause it’s like

“Why no sir, I was in the area 21 miles away from my home to pick up Chinese food. Then all the sudden this magical rabbit excreted an AR-15 Non-Automatic rifle and told me to go save the people in the riots. So I set my MooShoo Pork down and headed a few blocks over when I was attacked and my gun killed the people who attacked me. Why thank goodness for that magical rabbits AR-15 sir because if not for it, I think I may be a goner.”

 

“A friend of Mr. Rittenhouse’s, Dominick Black, was carrying his own semiautomatic rifle in Kenosha that night.

Mr. Black testified that he used Mr. Rittenhouse’s money to buy a comparable rifle for him at a hardware store in northern Wisconsin in May 2020, when Mr. Black was 18 but Mr. Rittenhouse was underage.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ny...ittenhouse-trial-semiautomatic-rifle.amp.html

 

There is no law against driving to the town his father lives in.

I understand that you want him to be guilty, but there just isn't much evidence I've seen to support a conviction.

 

I don’t care if he’s guilty or not.

What I want is for shit like this to not happen.

 

Shit like this will happen until we drastically improve our gini coefficient.

There is no gun control that could ever change it.