OT LeBron James said Kyle Rittenhouse should 'knock it off' after the teen cried during murder trial

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

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    it may mean its racist to them, but why am i then forced to think like them? Why, just because they decide to use it as such must everyone then conform to that thought?
    We already know racist people are whacked so why give legitimacy and make it some universal thing?
    Let them do their thing over in their corner snd as long as they don't reach out, let them face off into oblivion…

    let me put it another way…

    if i get all my Italian family aNd friends and ask them to start lifting thier left leg up every time they see each other, does that make everyone who lifts their leg up, Italian?
    How do you know who they are lifting the leg up for as passing by?

    i dunno man. I just think you are giving them waaaayyy too much power over things. And not just you, many people..

    we just cant let them dictate what means what. Again, we already know they are straight in the head.
     
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    jeff lowe? Is that you?
     
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    Im not, today is the first time ive heard that the ok, alls good sign is racist. I used it growing up and so have my kids, along with the peace sign and middle finger. I suppose thumbs ip is also racist. Tiring.
     
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    In my opinion, just letting racists be is the exact wrong thing to do.

    Racists and racism needs to be called out. Letting racists do their thing in the corner is very dangerous. It needs to be confronted and eradicated. We have let racists be for the eternity of time, and racism is still here along with all the tragedies it has caused and continues to cause. It’s not going away until we really change as a society
     
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    Dismissing the spread of the hand signal as a hoax overlooks two hard realities: first, that its increasing use gives open license to actual racist ideologues to operate and recruit under the cover of the “plausible deniability” established by less ideological young trolls; and second, that any kind of wink-and-nudge interaction with the racist right is a direct route to its normalization.

    While the people who flash the sign can always readily claim innocence of any racist intent by attesting that they “only meant it ironically” and that their real purpose was to anger liberals, minorities and “social justice warriors (SJWs),” they can’t so readily escape ethical culpability for their role in the spread of hateful ideologies and their effects, including a global spike in hate crimes. Nor can they blame members of the minority groups who reasonably find such hand signals potentially threatening for being upset.

    Radical fascists have, after all, historically taken advantage of the “marketplace of ideas” as a useful platform for spreading their toxic ideology — the outcome of which always entails the utter destruction of that marketplace and its replacement with authoritarian propaganda. When far-right ideologues retreat to a “free speech” defense amid claims of left-wing persecution — which is what memes like the “OK sign” are designed to do — this is always their long-term goal.

    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white-power-symbol-or-just-right-wing-troll
     
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    calling them out is not the same as letting them dictate our culture and the meaning behind our communication methods.
     
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    That Kyle guy is quite the celebrity isn’t he.
     
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    show me where this has widespread meaning of rascism.
    Other than some racists saying it so, i and others use the symbol on a daily basis to communicate. Thumbs up and okay have long been part of construction communication, diver communication, communication for people with disabilities.
    To give in to this is just ludicrous to me and i refuse to.
    In that very quote it says they use things like this to spread, but guess what, several of us only had this spread to us from you. Until then, we would keep using it for communication and had been just fine. So the spread is actually coming through the fear of those who oppose them. Its you who are spreading their ways.
    Media is overpublicising a very minor thing and because of that its now the way. but only becsuse you are buying in. Not because thats what it is.

    Reality is the okay sign is a symbol of communication meaning okay.
    The only way it changes is if you allow it to be. Not them. They just proposed it. But you are the one conforming to their desires. Not me.
     
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    No?
     
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    And im sorry but there is real racism out there real assholes doing real things to innocent people and this focus on things like this instead of the ones actually causing harm is frustrating.
    Its frustrating because if one article gets enough clicks it just becomes truth and thats frustrating.
    There are real life people out there just trying to get by and hand signals may help and all be damned if we should condemn them because some racists said it means they are racists and the internet has run with it like its true.

    we need more free thinkers. Not internet followers. Just because a picture of some racists were taken, doesn't mean the billions of people in this world now know or concede thats what it means.
    Stop letting them and the internet control your thinking people…

    very frustrating…
     
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    I'm not upset. I think it's dumb that people believed it in the first place and then these other dumbfucks started doing it because they knew it upset liberals.

    I think it's stupid that something benign can be turned into something else that easily.
     
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    Okay!
     
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    No one is “falling” for anything except some of you who think when a bunch of Proud Boys line up all giving the OK sign they just are happy about the weather or something. Truly ridiculous.
     
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    Ugh. Pointless
     
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    Nobody is telling you can’t use the OK sign - go ahead and keep doing it, apparently you need it while some of us have used it maybe five times since HS. The sign IS used by racists. We know when they use it - many times all together- what it means and it’s not just “hi everyone! We are just so happy to be together and all is A-ok!” Nobody flashes the OK sign for pics, or behind Trump during a speech, or when lined up with their friends wearing bullet proof jackets, for another reason other than “we are racist pieces of shit look at us”.
     
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    this right here. Use it, just don't act like it doesn't know have a bastardized meaning. And no, just continuing to use it doesn't mean you're taking that power away from them or whatever.
    I mean, you can shave a Charlie Chaplin mustache all you like, and say it's because of him. ANd then feign fake anger when you can't wear his mustache. How dare we let someone steal the Chaplin mustache! It's us weak liberals that gave it away!
     
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    Way to diminish the use of it for people that use sign language. What if I did need to use it or someone close to me needed to use it? Are you gonna think you are so much better than them? Sure seems like it. You are such a treat.
     
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    Whats ridiculous is that you are trying to assert we are saying they don't mean anything or they mean have a nice day or they are ok. But you are incapable of seeing or admitting that…

    Like anyone said that…


    Talk about being dumbed down….
     

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