OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Which flavor?
     
  3. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I was sick after mine too. Lasted a day.
     
  4. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    Is that because kids under five are unvaxxed?
     
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  6. Orion Bailey

    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

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    i was just wondering the same thing. Children were the last to be able to be vaxxed right? And so likely many still arent?

    Also not sure of the percent of. Vaxxed adults in South Africa.
     
  7. brewmaster

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    I wonder how you will feel after the fourth booster, and the fifth booster?
     
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    Highly doubtful. South Africa appears to have ~25% vaccine rate.

    This is just a different variant with different behaviors.
     
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    When the numbers show that people are dying at the same rate as vaccinated I’ll stop with them
     
  10. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    Same as I do over annual flu shots. Mild nuisance.
     
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  11. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Probably fine within a day

    The vaccine just makes you feel sick. You are not actually sick. It just tricks your body to react a certain way so that if you do get covid it is not a stranger to your immune system.

    I have had no problem with feeling sick for a half a day or a day, knowing that I am better protected against Covid.
     
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    uh…. Yeah…. No basis for you to answer this question.
     
  14. riverman

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    Get my booster at the VA in the morning....wife scheduled for the 15th to get hers...we'll both be glad to get it done
     
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    Alive.
     
  16. MARIS61

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    The American Heart Association has announced that the mRNA shots, any of them, will increase your chances of getting heart disease by 11% - 25%.
     
  17. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Fact Check-Research abstract is not reliable evidence of a link between mRNA vaccines and heart disease


    A research abstract cited by commentators as proof that COVID-19 vaccines increase a person’s risk of heart disease has raised multiple concerns from experts.

    The 319-word abstract, published in the American Heart Association journal Circulation, claims its research has found mRNA vaccines “dramatically increase” inflammation in endothelium cells and T cell infiltration in the heart.

    This inflammation, it says, “may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination” (here).

    Commentators on British television and social media have since cited the research as the “death bell” for mRNA vaccines (see here), or as reliable proof to back up anonymous sources and alleged anecdotal evidence of vaccine-related heart disease (see here).

    However, multiple experts have raised criticisms of the abstract, which does not detail a full study and has not been peer-reviewed.


    The American Heart Association published an “expression of concern” in its journal on Nov. 24 to warn that the passage may not be reliable and that a “suitable correction” was needed (here).

    It added: “Specifically, there are several typographical errors, there is no data in the abstract regarding myocardial T-cell infiltration, there are no statistical analyses for significance provided, and the author is not clear that only anecdotal data was used.”

    Multiple other experts have expressed similar sentiments online (here , here and here), including one who shared parts of a presentation about the abstract and said it lacked data and any references, and was only written by one person (here).

    Reuters has reached out to the abstract author, Dr Steven Gundry, who is a former cardiothoracic surgeon and now promotes nutritious ways to avoid surgery, as well as running a private restorative medicine practice. He was not immediately available for comment.

    Reuters has previously addressed claims about COVID-19 vaccines and heart issues here and here.

    VERDICT
    Missing context. The research abstract does not provide reliable evidence that mRNA vaccines increase risk of heart disease.

    This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact-checking work here .

    https://www.reuters.com/article/fac...mrna-vaccines-and-heart-disease-idUSL1N2SH1HN



     
  18. BigGameDamian

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    Not on AHA web site.
     
  20. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    BFD. Already there dude……….
     
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