OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. Orion Bailey

    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

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    but flip it to covid deaths and everyone died from covid. No one died from something else… with covid…
    Astounding hypocrisy is correct.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Because you guys know more than epidemiologists... Right...

    Ignorance warship is the biggest problem in this country.
     
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  3. Orion Bailey

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    who said they know more than epidemiologists? Fake news is the biggest problem in this country.

    Selective news and narratives to propel an agenda is the biggest problem in this country.
     
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    You did, right up there.

    These wouldn't be a problem without the excessive worship of ignorance in this country and the resulting attacks on education.
     
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    Cant stand the guy but he did put it on the fast track.
     
  7. calvin natt

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    Simply shows you how stupid Trumpers are. They want credit for it, and won’t take it. Good job guys!
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No, we've already covered that false claim in this thread. If you die of something unrelated to covid (e.g. a car crash) while infected with covid, your death is not counted as a covid death.

    barfo
     
  9. SlyPokerDog

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    Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame

    Since May 2021, people living in counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump during the last presidential election have been nearly three times as likely to die from COVID-19 as those who live in areas that went for now-President Biden. That's according to a new analysis by NPR that examines how political polarization and misinformation are driving a significant share of the deaths in the pandemic.

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    NPR looked at deaths per 100,000 people in roughly 3,000 counties across the U.S. from May 2021, the point at which vaccinations widely became available. People living in counties that went 60% or higher for Trump in November 2020 had 2.7 times the death rates of those that went for Biden. Counties with an even higher share of the vote for Trump saw higher COVID-19 mortality rates.

    In October, the reddest tenth of the country saw death rates that were six times higher than the bluest tenth, according to Charles Gaba, an independent health care analyst who's been tracking partisanship trends during the pandemic and helped to review NPR's methodology. Those numbers have dropped slightly in recent weeks, Gaba says: "It's back down to around 5.5 times higher."

    The trend was robust, even when controlling for age, which is the primary demographic risk of COVID-19 mortality. The data also reveal a major contributing factor to the death rate difference: The higher the vote share for Trump, the lower the vaccination rate.

    The analysis only looked at the geographic location of COVID-19 deaths. The exact political views of each person taken by the disease remains unknowable. But the strength of the association, combined with polling information about vaccination, strongly suggests that Republicans are being disproportionately affected.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health...isinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate
     
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  12. Chris Craig

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    What?

    No

    People who died of Covid, died of Covid.

    People who died of other things, died of other things. The difference is Covid weakned them and they then died of other things. The Covid didn't kill them.

    There is no hypocrisy here.

    Just cold hard facts
     
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  13. Chris Craig

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    That's going to hurt next election
     
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    But the vaccine cant do the same? Weaken people and then they die from other things?
     
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    He didn't create the vaccine though as he insists. He was never in a lab in a lab coat figuring out the vaccine. The creation of the vaccine went into place while he was president sure after he fucked up and didn't close the borders down immediately after news of Covid in China hit. Then he fucked up the roll out of said vaccine.
     
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    No evidence the vaccine weakens people.
     
  17. Chris Craig

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    In very very rare cases people can have allergic reactions and die from the vaccine.

    For those who aren't allergic it actually strengthens the immune system.

    So, if someone dies from the vaccine which again is exceedingly rare (far rarer than dying of Covid) then they die from the vaccine.

    If and there is no evidence of such, the vaccine weakens someone and they die from something else, then they die from the other thing, not the vaccine.
     
  18. Orion Bailey

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    how can covid weaken people but a covid vaccine doesnt? Dont all vaccines give a dose of the virus for the body to build antibodies, but the innitial vaccine injection is still a covid base that… would act like covid and weaken someone?
     
  19. Orion Bailey

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    but there have been many many cases of adverse reactions to the vaccine, even if mild and short term.
     
  20. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Sure,

    The mechanism of the vaccine tricks the body into thinking it's sick. It tricks the immune system into thinking it's being attacked. But, that is not really the case. The "attacker" is harmless. Our body reacts as though we are ill. We get aches or a fever and then the body realizes the threat is not real and it goes away.
     

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