Fischer: NBA Insiders Expect More Changes After Portland Execs Dismissal

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  1. Minstrel

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    When you blast the players, you're doing what Olshey did--passing the buck. "I'm doing a great job, everyone around me is the problem." And before you say you don't think he's consciously trying to deflect blame--it doesn't matter. That's how it comes across and as a thinking adult human being, he should be aware of that. If he lacks even that basic awareness, he shouldn't be in a job that involves managing other people.
     
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    Unlike Olshey, he’s constantly taking ownership of having to do better as a coach. But at the same time he knows what it takes to win. He’s got something no one else on the team does. Shut up and listen.
     
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    That' quote is not really an accurate representation of these press conferences. Unlike Neil/Stotts, Chauncey has repeatedly said he too has to improve himself and is completely transparent on things he needs to improve on.

    I wish some of you guys would watch the whole PCs instead of picking and choosing singular quotes. And the demeanor with which he speaks is also revealing.

    Maybe he's too honest for this day and age, and it's fine line between calling guys out and losing them. I hope he figures it out sooner.
     
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    Billups has been tough on McCollum. He’s challenged him defensively and asked for more competitive fight. And he’s putting him in different spots on offense, which McCollum said has taken him time to adjust to.

    “I like Chauncey,” McCollum said. “I like his approach. I think he’s approaching things the right way. He’s not a guy who thinks he knows it all. I think he’s approaching things the right way — asking for feedback, asking questions, and he’s holding himself accountable, which is important. It’s on us to be better, and he has stated that.”
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    This quote is from an article published today, so as recent as it gets.
     
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    Not a fan of the (fake) Vulcans, but they can't be faulted for wanting more for their money than what they are/were getting. The Suns made it to the Finals last year and this year have a lower salary bill and are under the Lux tax. The Chicago Bulls are #2 in the East and they are in a similar position financially as the Suns.
     
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    Personally, I don't think it's about "being too honest." You can be honest behind closed doors. When you go to the press with it, you're trying to motivate through embarrassment. That has huge backfire potential--all the more so if you're wrong (which is also a high risk, when you're talking about things like effort and desire rather than factual things like being bad at boxing out).
     
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    i'm guessing some of you have jumped on the call. Usually see around 10 people on these. Like 30 on today.
     
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    I don't disagree that it's possible, but it usually takes a star on a rookie deal/multiple core supporting players on rookie deals/just remarkable front office work. The Blazers aren't really in the first couple categories unless Little and Ant take major steps forward. We'd love an amazing front office, but I think a reasonable expectation for even a solid front office is that to seriously contend, you probably need to be willing to go into the luxury tax.
     
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    Anything interesting?
     
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    nothing too groundbreaking so far-- first 20 min or so were Blazer related. The moves initially will be to see if they can upgrade Roco/Nurk with existing roster. Return for Roco (if they can't get a direct upgrade) might be a first round pick value. Mentioned Utah specifically as someone that might see Roco as a missing piece that Portland can extract a pick from. Dame has historically been a roadblock to CJ moves-- that has decidedly changed now and CJ is fully aware of it. There is a faction in CJ's camp that might also be open to a move. Morey is steadfast in not trading Ben for CJ because he doesn't to give Dame what he wants.

    Also might be unrelated, but Pacers firesale is coming. Pacers expecting a Vucevic-like return for Sabonis. Everyone is on the block except for their rookies and Brogdan (who is ineligible to be traded).
     
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    We can still get a 1st for RoCo? They should take that yesterday. That's what I thought we could do if the acquisition did not go well, but I didn't think it would still be possible with the way he's played so far.

    Problem is Utah has no salary to match for RoCo. Ingles? He's better. O'Neale? Same.

    Whiteside + Gay + Azubuike work but thats two rotation guys for one.
     
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    Lmao I can’t wait until he bails on another team right before they have to go in rebuild mode because of his failures.
     
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    They have not interviewed or reached out to any external candidates with any official capacity right now, and the names floating out there are those with connections to various factions in the franchise (either Billups or Dame or ownership). Other names will surface as they begin the search but it has not yet started.

    Not gonna be Ainge and it will be someone younger and/or a potential minority (either black or a woman).
     
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    fuck yeah
     
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    he mentioned Utah specifically, then NY, and missed the third team (i was working on stuff when he said it) as teams that might still hold him in high regard because they want 3&d wings, and he was considered one of the premier 3&d guys when Portland acquired him.
     
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    Warriors did pretty damn good with a gay man.
     
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    Trigger warning: this will no doubt anger just about everybody here. Whatever.

    What is the point of promoting from within to be interim GM if the guy will not, cannot, or is forbidden to make the moves everybody knows need to be made? The only point to having Cronin assume the title is that he has been here for years and already knows what needs doing. Can anybody point to one shred of evidence the team is doing anything other than standing pat? Billups can be judged after 25 games, but after a decade or more Cronin still needs time?

    What a frickin' joke this franchise has become.
     
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    Roco is still good when locked in, we see flashes of it. Easy to convince yourself he just needs a change of scenery.
     
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    he's been our 10th man this season. and i can't figure out what his problem is. i thought he'd be great in this defensive style flying around, getting deflections. he's been so disengaged.
     

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