OT If you praised Chauncy Billups please raise your hand and take a step forward

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  1. riverman

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    Chauncey wanted ball movement from guys who've been ISO players for almost a decade.....they have been trying to pass but learning to adapt is costing them points in the meantime. Chauncey has addressed all this stuff clearly..
     
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    Like Stotts, I believe Billups has been fine... not horrible, not great, and certainly not the main problem.
     
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    To be fair, he's just doing what he was hired to do. But the guy who hired him was fired. And the guy who whom Chauncey replaced because his defense was bad... had better defense than Chauncey.

    Prediction: the roster's going to get a shakeup and Chauncey's going to be given more receptive players. Good for Chauncey. Stotts could've coached better defense with better defenders, too. And Stotts at least knew how to get a great offense out of these players.
     
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    At this point, getting the roster healthy, particularly Dame, is a much bigger factor than coaching.
     
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    Coaching is flat out going to take time to click with a rookie coach...plus McGowan and Olshey are gone...Chauncey has a lot of pressure coming out of the gate and I'll gladly cut him some slack given the circumstances of this team right now..he has yet to show anyone that he's an elite coach by a long stretch but he could become that...he has the vision at least
     
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    Billups was never the answer to any of our problems. Not enough experience.

    Wrong time to hire him. We should have kept Stotts until we get get a legit upgrade at coach. In fact, we should have been looking for an upgrade on staff for the past 5 years.
     
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    Was it because of the change in coach or the humiliating loss to a disabled Nuggets team in last years playoffs that was the straw that broke the camel’s back? Most of the players saw the writing on the wall after that loss and with the circus surrounding Dame and whether he wants to stay or go it looks all the uncertainty has caught up with the players. Could Billups be better? Of course but hypothesizing that Terry Stotts could’ve done better with this roster is just pure speculation. He had clearly lost the team at the end of his tenure and no coach was going to turn that around. Not Billups. Not anyone.

    Also to all of you who are clamouring for the glory days under Terry Fucking Stotts, in the 2019-20 season when the team started 16-24 were y’all calling for his head like you are now with Billups?

    Is there more to your bias against Billups than just the team record?
     
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    I think Billups is trying to do something else.
    Stotts "great offense" was regular season offense. George Karl. Letting Lillard and CJ play free was not that "great" in playoffs.
    So I call bollocks.
     
  10. Rastapopoulos

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    When were we ever beaten by a worse team in the playoffs? Just because we lost in the playoffs doesn't mean we did especially poorly. Even last year when Denver beat us, they were rolling coming into the playoffs even without Murray.
     
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    I'm trying to get my head around this. So they faked being good for Stotts? I wish I could fake being good at basketball.
     
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    That's just dumb. I predicted we'd lose 4-2 to the Nuggets, and you know why? Because I looked at the way the Nuggets were playing. Of course they had a better record than us, but it wasn't just because of their play before Murray went down. They were rolling without him. Anybody "humiliated" by that is a jackass.
     
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    ...especially if that rookie coach alienates half the team.

    Look: I'm not denying that the team was getting stale, but that's just as much the roster's fault as Stotts. As we're seeing, this team just doesn't have the tools to play great defense. Defense isn't just hard work (no matter how many times idiots repeat that) it's a talent as much as shooting. It's about have a really good court sense, among other things. And we don't have enough players with that talent. Stotts knew this, so he focused on a simple defense that minimized our deficiencies as much as possible, and an offense that squeezed the most out of the kind of scorers we had. Would Stotts have used the same system with a different roster? Almost certainly not: he was the guy who designed the offense for the Nowitzki Mavs when they won the title.

    If you really wanted to see if you could get more out of this roster than Stotts did, we should've hired D'Antoni. Given what he did for Jeremy Lin, imagine what he could have done for Dame. But even then, Dame's injury might've fucked that up.

    Really we should've blown this up two Summers ago.
     
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    I know you joking, ma man:) My fav failure goes to NO series.
     
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    We lost to a team with Prime Anthony Davis and Best Perimeter Defender in the League Jrue Holiday. Horrors! The shame of it.
     
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    Our short discussion wasn't about if it was horror (btw, 4:0, it was), but about how great Stotts offense was.
     
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    Stotts' offense was great given what he had to work with. But Phil Jackson and Gregg Poppovich combined couldn't've coached us past New Orleans.
     
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    Stotts offens was quite good for regular season only. And it was Lillard's offense really.
     
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    I love your revisionist history. The Nuggets limped into the playoffs with a 3-3 record in the six games preceding the start of the playoffs - clearly “rolling” as you put it. They were also without their starting backcourt in Murray and Barton and Blazers got scorched by the perennial all-stars Campazzo and Rivers. GTFO with that garbage you’re spewing.

    Since you’re so smart, maybe you and your boy @Tince should team up and submit your application for the vacant GM role with the team. I’m sure you’ll get lots of consideration with your in-depth knowledge of the team and foresight. Maybe your first order of business can be to bring your loverboy Stotts back as coach?
     
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