Politics The Joe Biden Thread

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  1. Hoopguru

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    Not Hillary but Bernie
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So the theory is that Biden will step aside so that an even older guy can take his place? Seems unlikely.

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    He would be nothing more than a puppet for the young socialist.
     
  4. Road Ratt

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    Biden Restarts Student Debt Payments Despite Economy.



    Only 50% of Gen Z graduates in 2020 even have full-time employment.
     
  5. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RipCity

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    Loans for liberal arts degrees should be illegal.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Why?
     
  7. riverman

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    Those are readily available at the community college level without requiring massive debt...people choose to take on debt for their own reasons in education whether it's learning to be a pipefitter or a chef.....I opted to use the GI Bill for my schooling...which is like working off a loan in advance..nobody is required to take on student debt unless they think it's a path to their career goals. People default on housing and auto loans all the time when circumstances change financial stability. College loans aren't any different in my view.
     
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    Here are a few popular liberal arts majors:

    • Biology — uncover the inner workings of living creatures through studying science, math, and history.

    • Creative writing — craft stories and learn to communicate through the written word. Classes in psychology, philosophy, history, and English can help improve your stories.

    • Fine art — apply your vision and creativity while learning to create art. History, psychology, geometry, and communications classes also help art students improve their creative work.

    • History — explore the events and situations that impact our world, from wars to political movements. Political science, sociology, psychology, and religious studies round out this major.

    • Political science — study the systems of government and understand its institutions, practices, and relationships. You will explore aspects of psychology, economics, history, and sociology with a political science major.

    • Psychology — learn how humans think and understand which factors influence our brains and behavior. Psychology students also learn about sociology, history, art, biology, and statistics.

    • Sociology — understand how societies are structured and how groups of people interact. History, political science, art, and math all play a role in this major.
     
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    It was in jest. Because they don't pay.
     
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    actually it's not betrayal...it's disappointing to him as well as you....in order to get infrastructure bills passed the GOP demanded several of these provisions be removed or they'd kill the bill...every president has to sacrifice these things in order for more important infrastructure money to be alloted to fight things like global warming and the power grid....Biden had to concede his infrastructure bill or make compromises to the Republicans voting on the bill......happens with every administration
     
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    I get what you mean, but the difference here is that he didn't have to start the payments back up to get any of this passed. He had extended the repayments before, he could do it again.

    And to RoadRats point, most don't want him to start them back up. https://www.businessinsider.com/maj...nt-loan-payment-pause-extended-survey-2021-12
     
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    The Democrats don't really want to do anything for student loan forgiveness. They have been counting on the Republicans opposition so it could be used as a bargaining chip. Dems will wait till after they lose power in 2022 then propose a bunch of legislation that that has no chance to pass. Blame it on the Republicans and use it as an issue to try and get reelected.
     
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    This. This is the game they play. They are all funded by the same people and so they all have the same end game.

    Keep us divided and the gravy train keeps chugging along. Anything that would make real change in either the system, or changing the conversation, is a threat to the status quo. These things bring in a bunch of donations so must be milked for all they are worth.

    In no particular order
    Climate change/pollution
    Healthcare
    Student loans
    Homelessness
    Gun control
    Racism
    Abortion
    Sexism
    War on Drugs

    Arguing about these keeps politicians paid. Solving these issues costs them money.
     
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    We have basically been divided into a country that is unable to govern unless it is a crisis situation, and even then we often don't even do that.
     
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    This student loan debt forgiveness idea is just a big jerk of session to distract people from other much more important things, like the broken medical system, which is a problem that effects many more people. They are toying with this student loan idea (which they will never, ever actually do anyway) to occupy people’s minds in hopes they don’t ask for debt forgiveness for the one time they went to the doctor and it ruined their entire life. It’s amazing how upside down the concept is that you get fucked over by a broken, corrupt system and they somehow trick you into thinking you’re the one who should be asking for “forgiveness”.
     
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  18. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    While I find the cost of so called “higher” education unconscionable, I struggle with the concept that those students got “fucked over by a corrupt, broken system”. They (or their parents) signed on the bottom line. They bought into the fallacy that financial success was contingent on a four year degree. They went in with their eyes wide open, whether they did their due diligence or not. It’s like saying they want debt forgiveness for their mortgage because they didn’t realize they couldn’t afford that particular house when they signed the papers. It’s not on the rest of us to pay for their lack of foresight (or their gullibility). Yes, the situation sucks big time…..like a lot of situations we put ourselves in. My wife and I just finished paying off one son’s student loans (16 years after he graduated….and we were happy to do so). But we knew what we were getting into. No way I can condemn the system, even if I wanted to. I willingly chose to participate, just as everyone else did who took on a student loan. I paid my obligations and I have no desire to pick up the tab for those who can’t or won’t. And, shamefully, I find it ironic (and even amusing) that these so called “educated” people were such lemmings who followed each other over the financial cliff despite the clanging alarm bells. Makes you wonder just how smart these folks really were in the first place……
     
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    brilliant!
     
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    18-22 year olds can be quite stupid. No arguments there.
     

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