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  1. Hoopguru

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    Hard to say how this will play out but maybe TT isn't worried and will compete.
     
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    Agreed...
     
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    What is going on with Nix? He beat the Ducks as a true freshman. Isn't his dad some past Auburn star?
     
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    I don't know how to feel about Nix. But I have heard from a couple of people who are connected that none of the Duck freshman QB's were close to being ready for prime time
     
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    With the talent those guys had coming out of high school them not being ready would be more of a reflection of the coaching staff and not the players themself, IMO.
     
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    Aggressive move you know that Dilly has watched them practice and much film. I want Ashford?sp to stay for sure.
     
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    by the way, it's starting to sound like Oregon will add Tosh Lupoi to their coaching staff. He's the current DLine coach Jacksonville in the NFL

    will probably be the Co-DC. What he was at Cal, and Washington and Alabama was consistently one of the top-10 recruiters in the nation. Oregon is at least putting together, on paper, an incredible recruiting staff. Lanning, Dillingham, and Powledge are all ace recruiters

    and with Don Johnson being retained as recruiting coordinator they have a very good one already in place. Then, add Marshall Malchow as 'chief-of-staff' and director of player personnel. Who is he you ask? he's the guy who guided Georgia to 5 straight top-5 recruiting classes with the #1 class in 2018 and 2020. Currently he holds the same job at Texas A&M and if you guessed they have the #1 class this year, you guessed right. Those two position aren't as visible as coaches, but they are critical for a good program

    Now, if these guys can only coach almost as well as they recruit.
     
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    there is probably no position as difficult to assess at QB. The leap from high school fields to Power-5 fields is huge. Tyler Shough was a high 4-star recruit rated the 6th best QB in the country. That rating didn't reflect his actual talent level. Mariota was a 3-star rated the 28th best QB. Braxton Burmeister was a 4-star rated the 10 best QB in the country. He was terrible
     
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    Mario and staff were great at a lot of things. Developing QBs was not one of them.
     
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    Just the Bo news is solid pr for the ducks.
     
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    Mario from what Ive heard was very effective in front of Mom & Dad. Very good sincere communicator.
     
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    you may be right. Problem is there needs to be high level talent to develop. Ducks may not have had that

    I had hope for Thompson but what I heard was that he was having all kinds of trouble with progressions.
     
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    You mean high level like Herbert? Did Mario and staff really do anything to improve him?
     
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    he was pretty good his senior season. The problem was that the Ducks had no receiver who could consistently gain any separation from defenders. All three of their best receivers that season, Juwan Johnson, Jacob Breeland, and Mycah Pittman missed half of the season

    people see how Herbert is doing in the NFL, compare it to how he did at Oregon and assume he wasn't developed there. But, if he didn't develop at Oregon, he wouldn't be doing what he's doing in the pro's. If he had the kind of receivers at Oregon he has at LA, he would have probably won a Heisman. Hell, if he had the kind of receivers his final season at Oregon that Mariota had his final season, he may have won a Heisman

    people forget what happened when Taggart left. These were the de-commitments from the Ducks that class:

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    the Ducks lost 6 WR's and a TE in the class before Herbert's junior season. They never really recovered from that even though Cristobal did a good job salvaging the class
     

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    Agreed. Maybe that's why Cristobal decided to get out before he was labeled as being unable to develop quarterbacks.

    Take the shot at his dream job while his stock is still fairly high...
     
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    Yeah, Oregon severely underutilized Herbert.
     
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    In the end it worked out for him. He went to a team with decent Wideouts instead of a shit heep and now he looks like the best young QB in the league.
     
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    True. It also says a lot about how lacking our offensive coaching staff has been.
     
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