The Chauncey Billups thread

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  1. riverman

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    Being patient with him is where I'm at but he's been less than impressive handling endgame timeouts and rotations and his offensive schemes are anemic at best.....sure he could use a better roster but he's not getting refs to listen to him and he's riding the Dame train......you have to be able to criticize the holes in Chauncey's gameplans just like any coach...my question is how effective has Brooks been as his vet assistant coach?
     
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  2. Wade Garrett

    Wade Garrett Exactly right.

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    Chauncey will struggle as coach as long as half the team is 6-4 and under.
    Anybody would.
    From the time we were all small children, we realized basketball is for tall people.
    Our previous GM never got that memo.
     
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    The Warriors beasted with small lineups though...but you need talent if you play that way and lights out shooting...small guards have to be snipers
     
  4. Wade Garrett

    Wade Garrett Exactly right.

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    Aside from the Magnificent Steph, Klay was 6-6, Draymond is 6-7/6-8, Iggy played big....
    I get your point, but whereas the Blazers are throwing out three starters at 6-3, the Dubs did have more height and.....MUSCLE......
    I said in in one of my only posts of the season back in October,....This Blazer team just aint BIG enough, OR strong enough.....
    You could make an argument that Nassir Little is the "toughest" player on the team, and he isn't very big.
     
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    Say what??

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    thier sg is 6’6.

    thats not small.
     
  7. illmatic99

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    Klay, Iguodala, and Green were all nba 1st team caliber defenders. And they could switch 2-4 without much difficulty because while everyone calls them "small," the only one who is challenged by height was Draymond. And he more than made up for it with his smarts and intensity.

    We have three 6'3 dudes who mostly don't give a damn on that end, and our scheme has our best defender trapping P&Rs 25 feet from the rim. I was overly critical of Stotts for being inflexible but Chauncey is just as bad with traps as Stotts was with dropping the big. Why can't we have a normal coach?
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    He's a first year coach. The guy knows basketball. No question about that. But he's not a great coach. He was never going to be a great coach this season. Likely not next season either...

    In fact, I doubt that he'll ever be a great coach for Portland. Maybe at his next job.

    Hiring a first year coach to get Dame where he wants to go was an incredibly bad idea.
     
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    He needed the right assistants. Brooks ain't it. I figured he'd need help in the nuances of coaching that go past fundamental stuff, like timeout/gameflow management, and communication to the players, and preparation, etc. What exactly is Brooks doing?
     
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    I don't think the assistants should make that big of a difference. If an assistant is that good just make him the head coach.
     
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    ime udoka, jacque vaughn, and mike d'antoni were crucial for nash last year in BK. he had a lot of trouble with the minor details of coaching and made a ton of mistakes like billups is right now and admitted as much.
     
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    Steve Nash sure praised what D'Antoni brought to his rookie season with the Nets as a first time coach...I just think Brooks should know when to call a timeout and when to rotate a fatigued player..when to challenge a call, etc....I think Chauncey will improve as a coach throughout the season but he took over a team without having much of an offensive playbook in my view
     
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    I get what you're saying, but Nash is in a completely different situation.
     
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    That's fine. Our assistant coach isn't the problem with this team. There are a lot of problems.

    Problems that were always going to happen with a first year coach.
     
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    Our inability to close a game is the problem with this team...part of that is coaching
     
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    Absolutely. And that was almost certainly going to be a problem with any first year coach.
     
  17. illmatic99

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    true. That said, the biggest worry for me now is the lack of preparation.

    This is something i saw from Stotts' teams and I was super encouraged earlier when Billups scouted the hell out of Phoenix/LA/MEM and blew them all out at home. But games like last night are straight up inexcusable. We looked like we had no idea who the opposing players were and guys were out of place so often. If not for Dame getting hot, that 14 point loss could have been 30. To a bottom feeding WC team missing its best player, while we were rested.

    How does that shit happen? First time coach or not, that is worrisome.
     
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    it's not just closing. we routinely spot teams 10-15 pt leads to start the first/third/fourth quarters. that's preparation and focus. and it's been lacking since preseason.
     
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    This whole situation is very worrisome. We should not have allowed Olshey to hire another coach. We should not have allowed Olshey to fire Stotts.

    We should have fired Olshey and let the new GM make those moves.
     
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    the stotts firing was long overdue. that needed to happen. same with the olshey firing.

    whether billups was the right hire... i'm not so sure these days.
     
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