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  1. SlyPokerCat

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    To be fair, ya'll have had some twitter drama.
     
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    I appreciated your feedback. You have to realize how starting out your criticism like this is triggering though. Our whole platform is based on breaking down the game in more detail than anyone else. You can disagree with our opinions, but I don't think anyone who has watched our show would say we don't thoroughly explain and back our opinions and take time talking about the x's and o's of the game more than any other show.

    This year I've wanted everyone to be better with their arguments (Torey, myself, and chat). Challenging people to have better discussion points than "Nurk is trash" or whatever isn't being disrespectful towards others opinions. I literally ask people to instead say "I don't like x, y, and z that Nurk is doing" and whatnot. It's tough though. We want to be interactive with our audience, it's a big reason why we've been successful. There's a fine line between disagreeing with people in chat and it coming across as us not being accepting of differing opinions. Believe it or not, I actually love differing opinions because it does generate good discussions. But yeah, whenever someone becomes disrespectful and turns it into something else we get called out for "focusing too much on the trolls." Like @JDC used to comment in chat a lot disagreeing with us but it led to a lot of really fun conversations.

    Like Torey said, we've made an effort this season to try and ignore the "haters" but the more we do this the more amplified the haters get. It's hard man. We don't set out to get into it with people. It's not planned. I agree with you that less of that would be better but some of it us practically unavoidable. The stuff we say like the "Dame doesn't throw lobs" comments stem from being shit on by other platforms. I get that kind of response turns some people off but like Torey said we're just going to be ourselves. For me personally, I'm not trying to make it in this industry. I'm just trying to talk basketball. Lately, I've gotten a ton of both positive feedback and negative feedback too. It's literally free content for people that Torey and I have spent thousands of hours doing, but people (not saying you) act like we owe them more or something. Not to speak for him, but I think that's why Torey reacted the way he did. I totally get why people don't like us or want to watch but an occasional thanks for all the free time you put into this would be nice instead of "you guys need to do this or that or stop doing this or try that." Again, this is meant as a heartfelt response, not a negative reaction to your post.
     
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    Okay, cool. Yeah, much like this forum, no Twitter beef would exist without us being on social media. Good point!
     
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    Of course there would still be arguing on twitter.

    I don't think it is a coincidence ya'll still find yourself bickering elsewhere though. Even if it isn't here.
     
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    Yeah, all we do is bicker, good point once again.
     
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    I'm not hating on what ya'll are trying to do. Good for you. I appreciate you both trying to put more blazer content out there. It just is interesting how much drama has been around on your twitters with other people. For some reason drama seems to follow. I wonder why that is. Yes. Arguments can still happen without you both here. But it seems arguments happen for ya'll on other platforms too.
     
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    I literally don't recall ever interacting with you ever before this evening but you seem to know all about me.
     
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    I live at your house bruh. I am your family cat.

    Anyways. Good luck with your channel.
     
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    I rarely listen to anyone talk on streams about basketball but I really like the website you guys have put together and I think you've done an excellent job with it. I know I"ve sampled other podcasts that I thought were really horrible and you guys seem to have built a following on youtube..I don't do twitter but I wish you luck and am happy for your success...my online audio entertainment is not sports related at all so I follow other stuff on youtube ...I do read hoops info so I like the site a lot.
     
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    "Haters" will always be haters, but too often that term gets thrown around towards anyone who may disagree, sometimes in the least little bit. That is where reality starts to take a holiday. No public medium will ever make everyone happy and trying to do so is a waste of time. Do what you do, always try to be growing and getting better, and it will be fine. That applies to just about anything in life.
     
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    Look at the most successful hosts of sports type shows. Stephen A smith, skip bayless. Shannon sharpe. Max kellerman. These people say ridiculous things on the daily. They let criticism roll off their shoulders. They carry on. They don't get in arguments with every person that might disagree. The industry requires thick skin. You think tv networks would allow someone on tv that is going to call out a bunch of people with a different opinion than them? Not a chance. That is a liability to them. Even Marang got better at dealing with criticism. When he first started posted here he did not take it well. He still gets in little battles but he is so much better than he was. And i don't even care for his takes.
     
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    Sorry Puss, Id much rather watch blazersuprise than Stephen A or Bayless.
     
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    And that's fine. Everyone has their tastes. Of course you would because they focus on Blazer stuff. They are also usually very high on the Blazers so if you are optimistic, you'll enjoy their content. When someone thinks we can end up this years Utah after acquiring Larry Nance in the offseason, I can't take that take seriously. But I respect their opinion.

    I'm just saying. Thick skin is required for the industry. Just focus on making good content, not arguing with people that have different opinions and trashing those opinions.
     
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    Oh okay, everything you've said makes sense now.
     
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    Glad we could make things clearer for you I guess.

    Like I said. I hope the best for you both. Hope you end up taking the channel wherever you want to go. I can feel that way and still disagree with some of your takes.
     
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    You're bashing us for being argumentative by trying to start shit?

    Don't watch if you don't like us. It doesn't bother me one bit. What bothers me is when people think they know me or what's best for me based on an opinion that's misguided because they don't like us.

    I don't care about making it in this industry. I will always stick up for what I believe in. I got doxxed on Twitter for calling out "Blazer fans" who were making fun of KAT's mom dying. I'll do it again too. Other platforms are disrespectful to people that watch our show. I'm going to have those people's backs every time. Funny how that makes me someone who is constantly getting in arguments but the people starting it include someone you perceive as "improving."

    First two seasons Torey and I were constantly told we were too negative. Now because we had high hopes for this team, we were too positive. That's the thing though. We're never going to please everyone. So we just say what we believe, not what we think people want to hear.

    Thus why it's frustrating when people want us to be fake. You alluded to the fakest show and person out there with thinner skin than Torey and I. Multiple people that have worked with him will back that up. If that's what you like, watch his stuff, just don't pretend other people are any different than us.
     
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    That's the thing. You are really defensive. I'm not trying to argue over and over with you. I've said multiple times. I hope you all do well. You put together a fine show. The production continues to get better and better. I have respect for you both for what you are doing.

    I told you i'm not a fan of Marang. But he was way worse when he first started posting here. He isn't the only person ya'll argue with.

    That is good you stick up for the comment about KATs mom. That comment was ridiculous. I commend you for doing that.

    You may not have hopes to be in the industry. Does your partner feel the same?
     
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    My goodness. Even when you wish someone well, they come back on you. It's kind of proving the point, no?
     
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    I really am rooting for them. It would be cool to see them on TV. I check in on their youtube every once in awhile to see how things are going. Hence, why I know the production is getting better and better. I disagree often with their takes. But that doesn't mean I don't respect some of them.

    I can start arguments sometimes when I don't mean too. That isn't hard to admit for me. Seems like it is harder to admit for others.
     
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    Why do you care what he's trying to accomplish?
     

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