The 2022 Trade Idea Thread, now with more urgency!

I'm open to trading him but not giving him away. He's a very good player on a great value that many teams would love to have. I'm not prepared to say he's a terrible fit either. He'd probably be pretty willing to come off the bench should the Blazers get better. He'd be fantastic with Ben Simmons catching him off cuts.

 

Not while Dame is here.

 

I'd rather have Powell on his good 5 year contract than the Clippers pick.

 

Trade CJ then. A mediocre 1st round pick was half of the value of Roco with 2 years. Or the full value of Larry Nance with 2 years. Keeping Powell for 4.5 years is much better than that.

 

Lets see what the ab specialists say about that

 

Kobe didn't think he was rebuilding either at the end of his career. Dame isn't at the LeBron/Giannis/MVP level where he can carry a team to HCA or playoff series wins.

 

Powell had crazy splits as a starter vs bench in Toronto. He's one of those guys that clearly plays better as a starter. And his numbers back him up. He's one of the most efficient scorers in the league. He's just not a fit here with everyone else we've got and his defensive deficiencies. Cronin will have to decide between him and CJ, I dont see any other option. And that's at minimum, because ideally you'd probably trade both. Right now they're just gonna be taking minutes away from Ant and Nas.

 

What? This isn't an injury that will threaten his career. Where was it suggested that it was?

 

I don't think you can assign value of 1st round picks based upon Olshey trades. He's been terrible at utilizing those picks. Besides three 1sts for RoCo and Nance, he traded a 1st for Afflalo; a 1st for Plumlee; and two 1sts for Zach Collins. The rest of the NBA may very well not place that kind of disposable value on 1st round picks

 

Anfernee is the first good 1st round pick he's made since CJ. And he's only starting to reach that level as he is coming off his rookie deal. But still a 3/5 hit rate on useful players is not THAT bad. What's more questionable is the players he's trading those unused picks for....

 

yeah Nas sucks.

 

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I included Nas. CJ+Ant+Nas = 3, and Olshey has made 5 picks since 2013. The 2 bad ones are Zach Collins and Swanigan.

 

I meant in the shorter term. As in this season. I didn't think people would really be up in arms about dealing Powell for a tpe and a pick.

 

All the more reason not to trade Norman Powell for a mediocre to poor first round pick as illmatic suggested.

 

i feel like some of you guys are not following my train of thought, or are just being shortsighted. Trading Powell in my suggestion above nets us: 1) a pick, 2) gets us well below the tax to potentially have access to the full MLE, 3) gives us a TPE to make another trade in the summer for a player making ~18 mil, 4) r gives us flexibility to give Ant a similar deal without further tax implications.

We can do a similar deal with RoCo to NY (or CHI/etc) to get another pick.

We then combine CJ with our newly acquired picks to get someone like Simmons. And I think Morey would prefer this to adding on salary from Norm/Roco.

We then tank this ONE season, and come back with Dame/Simmons, our lottery pick, and flexibility to sign Ant/Nurk without getting too deep into the tax.

If Powell was a good fit and played elite defense, he would be great on our roster, but as is, he duplicates a lot of what our other guards bring. This is one way to maximize his value unless a deal presents itself for a taller player of similar talents.

 

You sound more like a Tank Beller!

 

Com’on man, the 1st he gave up for Plumlee was RHJ after the pick was made, which turned out to be a great trade cause Plumlee netted us a 1st in addition to Nurk. I can agree with a lot about what you’ve just said, but that was not a good example.

 

Ant - 22
Thybulle - 24
Nas - 21
Simmons - 25
Nurk - 27

Is interesting to me, though probably no one else. There's probably a better fit than Nurk, though.

 

I was speaking of 'present' value which means value at the time. Plumlee didn't have numbers any better than RoCo or Nance prior to that trade. He was a role player that netted a 1st from Portland. He was only a default starter in Portland because Blazers didn't have anybody better

what he netted in a subsequent trade was immaterial to the trade that acquired him because the circumstances of the 2nd trade were completely separate from the 1st

 

Thybulle/Dort are the types of players you need with Simons on the perimeter.