Game Thread GAME #46 - BLAZERS @ RAPTORS - JANUARY 23, 2022 - SUNDAY - 3:00 PM (PDT) ROOT SPORTS

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Chris Craig, Jan 22, 2022.

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Are you surprised the Blazers are 3-2 on this current road trip?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Not really, they beat the teams they should have

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  4. They are supposed to be tanking dammit

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  5. Gotta win sometime

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    I wonder is there is a better gauge of passing than just the raw passes numbers. I've seen Portland make several passes around the perimeter on some possessions for years that don't seem to generate good looks at all. 7 passes and a bad shot are not as good as 4 passes and a good shot
     
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    Here's the plot chart removing teams with top 75 players: Pretty much no correlation with a minor trend down that the more teams pass, the less likely they are to have a better record.

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    Yes, this is the right thought process in my eyes. Logically, the closest thing I could come up with is potential assists or assisted points created. Those also have flaws, but touting passing as being valuable has way more flaws. While neither would be considered a strong positive correlation, there at least is a positive correlation between the two. The more you gear towards the stat actually resulting in points, the stronger the correlation gets; which should be no surprise.

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    not to quibble, but it would be nice for you to "show equation" and R^2, the correlation coefficient. No extra work, just click the right box in the right menu.
     
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    I hear you. Next time, I'll put that in there for you. I can assure you I haven't been making up the data in the post or the ones I've made the last couple seasons. e

    You're also welcome to provide any data you have, so it's not just the "Coach Apologist" with the agenda as some tend to feel. I'd love to find a few metrics that have strong relation to success in the NBA.

    So far, having multiple all-stars, one of which is above average height or an MVP at above average height seem to be near requirements. Something our one all-star of below average height roster has been allergic to for years.
     
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    This is some of the data I've been tracking (I have more recent data, but here's a quick pic). Basically, you need a top 5 offense OR defense, and the other better be top 10.
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    That's pretty good and makes sense, thanks!

    not to quibble, but it would be nice for you to "show equation" and R^2, the correlation coefficient. No extra work, just click the right box in the right menu. :cheers:
     
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