The 2022 Trade Idea Thread, now with more urgency!

https://fadeawayworld.net/.amp/nba-...mart-josh-richardson-aaron-nesmith-and-a-pick

NBA Rumors: Boston Celtics Could Acquire CJ McCollum For Marcus Smart, Josh Richardson, Aaron Nesmith, And A Pick

 

That squad wouldn’t win anything this year or next year. Simons has now pretty much matched Powell statistically with a bigger upside, so the roster already doesn’t make sense. I like Okoro, but trading for Love’s contract basically says you think CJ’s value is equal to Love. If Love was shipped to a third team and we got draft capital back, I’d be more interested. Otherwise, yeah…I mean I can’t say that doesn’t deserve to get roasted lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

I read the "article" and the first thing is...it's not a fucking rumor.

it is one guy on the internet proposing a trade idea. That's it. That's like saying any of the trades suggested in this thread is a "rumor!!...oh my god it's happening!!"

 

Turrible Damian, just turrible.

 

I think the trade is fine but I wouldn't want Smart. If he could be routed to a 3rd team and the Blazers got Richardson, two 1sts, and 50M in cap savings I think that's decent (Celts can keep Nesmith). I really don't think CJ would bring back much better in a trade, but the Blazers would need to explore other options before this one

 

Yeah, the idea would be to move off of Powell, who has trade value, for an athletic 3, 4, or 5. Even without that move, the roster is bigger, more athletic, and has more upside and less cap commitment than the current roster. All seems like steps on the right direction.

As far as value, I think that Okoro >> Roco and CJ > Love (given that both have terrible contracts but Love is an expiring next year).

 

His shooting is not good, but it's not Russ level bad, and he takes way more shots when star players are out. He is strong as hell so he benefits switching lineups when put at the point of attack, he equips star guards to play great by masking their weaknesses, and he handles/passes well enough to break doubles on Dame or Simons and get bigs easy buckets much better than CJ or Norm.

I think he's good at every dimension other than shooting. If shooting solves all, we should probably throw $20M at Mclemore.

 

Not a Smart fan poor shooter and horrible shot selection. Worst part is he thinks he’s a scorer. Hard pass

 

Lol throwing out hyperbole like the McLemore take doesn’t help your point. He’s still 6’3. Going from a 3 guard lineup from Dame/CJ/Powell to Dame/Simons/Smart is no better.

What’s Russ level bad when it comes to shooting? Smart only shoots 1% higher than Russ from 3. Russ actually also shoots 43.8% fg this year and Smart shoots 39.2%. Career averages aren’t much different. Are you just saying Smart isn’t Russ level bad because he doesn’t make Russ level money? Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather have Smart. But in an ideal world, I’d have neither. Considering Smart at $10m a year as your lead guard off the bench would be different than Smart at an average of $18m a year as an undersized SF.

 

Okoro wouldn’t even be >> RoCo for us right now. He can certainly develop into being that, but he isn’t now. Is Okoro >> Ivey, Davis, Mathurin, and all the other guards in the mid lotto? Because if we don’t suck enough to get a top 3 pick, why not just trade CJ for a better return than Love and draft a young guard with that pick? Okoro’s 6’5, it’s not even like he’s a big guard.

Unfortunately, going from Covington to Love isn’t getting much bigger. Idk man, that’s a tough sell, especially if you can get a better return. The trade idea is a little short-sighted for me. A Love/Nurkic frontcourt will not take pressure off a Dame/Ant backcourt defensively. I for one just don’t love Okoro enough to make that deal, but there might be the difference in opinion.

 

To me this trade don't make since your giving one guard and taking back 2 guards and one small forward. Due we loaded at guards position. Richardson having ba down year but can play 2 guard and smart who are going sit to play him I guess backup point guard so really only one I really like out of the 3 is Nesmith.

 

We trade CJ and get exactly zero forwards/bigs? Ya no.

 

He's got 25 pounds on CJ. What do you consider a big, physical guard? Purely on height listings from the combine? His point of attack defense is already top 15 in the league and we probably have no one in the top 50 right now. I think he fits Dame's window much better than a mid-lotto guard.

 

What makes you think Okoro will fit Dame’s window better than Ivey, Davis, Mathurin, etc? He’s only 1-2 years older than them and has the same amount of playoff experience lol.

We don’t need to look at adding a guard, we need a forward at least 6’7. If Okoro was a couple inches taller, I’d think about it. But we already have to develop Little. I’d rather try to develop Little into being a big guard than swap CJ and Love’s salaries just for Okoro. CJ and Covington have to bring back guys that we can peg for the future that are taller than 6’5. We need to find at least one big starting forward before we think about a guard off the bench.

The Cavs are trying to compete now. If you really want Okoro, you can see if you can get Okoro + a 2nd for Covington or Powell. I would have no interest in taking on Love’s contract. You can trade CJ and get at least a 1st and some salaries and young guys. Cavs still can’t get anything for Love.

 

I’ve been trying to be nicer lately, but Marcus smart is one of the dumbest trade ideas I’ve ever seen on this forum and that’s putting it nicely.

Abandoning a scoring guard for a guard that can’t fucking shoot is dumb as fuck. Remember Ben Simmons refusing to shoot? That’s Marcus Smart. But instead of refusing to shoot… he launches a bunch of bricks.

Teams would literally triple fucking team Dame and let Smart shoot a bunch of airballs.

At any rate, trading guards for more guards doesn’t fix our abundance of guards issue. We need height, length and athleticism in the front court.

 

should’ve read this before I responded, but pretty much this…

In addition to the fact that we need front court players

 

For this one we would keep our pick for this season and trade our 23', 25' and 27' first rounders all top 4 protected.


We end up with a rotation of Ant, Nas, DFS, Simmons, KP, Shake, Watford, Brown, BennyMac, Snell until Dame gets back. I think this team makes the playoffs and Dame plays and we contend.

 

Every trade that doesn’t feature a player at least 6’7, I am hanging up the phone.