The 2022 Trade Idea Thread, now with more urgency!

I take out one of the FRDPs, but other than that, I like it.

 

Yeah, of course I would like to just give them two and that wouldn't be our initial offer but I would include that third pick if needed.

 

CJ
Nance
Nurk
Covington
Powell

for

KP
Simmons
Shake
DFS
Moses Brown

I think I’d probably do it

 

If we trade Norm and CJ we would need a 3rd guard. Sounds like New Orleans is the most likely spot for CJ with picks + Hart being the most likely package. Hart would be a really good fit as a 3rd guard behind Dame and Ant. Would then use the picks with other assets that we got from Norm and RoCo trades to try to upgrade the frontcourt, most likely in the offseason.

 

Fischer brings up New Orleans for CJ again, but I don’t see any package that would work straight up. We don’t need another guard (Hart) unless Powell is getting moved too. One thing they could do is find an expiring that fits into their TPE and attach that contract to Satoransky and Herb Jones. Someone like Taurean Prince for example. Minnesota doesn’t need him and he can be salary filler. We add a minimum guy as filler and it gets us under the tax too.

Is Herb Jones enough for CJ? Idk, they might have to attach a pick, but I would do it either way. Maybe I’m just overvaluing Jones though but he’d be a perfect fit. And it’d free up a ton of money.

 

As I said, hell no.

 

Herb Jones is definitely enough for cj

 

Last night, Danny Marang on the Jacked Ramsey's podcast went into more detail of what he has been talking about for a while in terms of a possible CJ trade with New Orleans.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ya7yr8vz

Josh Hart - $12M for 3 years...13.5/7.6/4.2 this season
Satoransky - $10M ending contract
Jaxson Hayes - $5.3M through next season...career .633 FG%

There are a couple of items here of interest. First, $3,515,918. That is the difference between the players coming in and CJ going out. That is very much a Jody-approved, Vulcan-likey number as it would put the Blazer just under the Luxury Tax by $509,760 and turns the Blazers into a team GETTING money versus PAYING money and keeps them out of the Repeater Tax penalty range.

Marang also suggested a couple of picks, which New Orleans has in abundance due to multiple picks and/or swaps coming from the Lakers and Bucks for the Davis and Holiday deals.

That is all well and good from a rebuilding Draft capital, getting under the Lux Tax, and finally decluttering out backcourt a bit although with Hart coming in, that doesn't really declutter, but does open up some shots for other people. Plus, Hart adds a little more size.

Satoransky is just filler on an ending contract which also helps out the Blazers who need to pay And and possibly Nurk.

It's the Jaxon Hayes part that makes me wonder how that would go. He has 12 misdemeanor counts hanging over his head from a domestic complaint/arrest incident. Given the fervor Billups hiring was met with, what would be the ramifications of bringing on Hayes even though as of now, they are just charges. Some of his Draft profiles compared him to Jarrett Allen, which would be something the Blazers could definitely use.

I'm just curious as to the Board's thoughts if something like that were to take place.

 

I hate that deal. If we’re dealing with the pelicans, any deal not involving Herb Jones is a non starter for me. We can find better partners if they won’t include him. And if Josh Hart is the best piece we can get for CJ, I’d rather just keep him.

No interest in Hayes either. I don’t view him as much of an asset and he seems like a clown off the court.

 

Because of the iffy Hayes stuff, we could always attempt it with trey Murphy in the deal instead.

 

I'd love to have Jones as well, but not shockingly, they aren't rushing to give up a lengthy wing defender shooting 38% from '3' on a rookie deal.

 

There are ways to get out of the Hayes deal and include others. Murphy would work, but it doesn't get the Blazers under the Lux tax and that is paramount to Jody and the Vulcans. Can't really blame them. Paying Lux Tax for a roster that is still within a couple games of the #6 Lottery slot, wouldn't make me happy either.

 

I think Murphy makes less than Hayes does

 

A series of trades, as Atlanta made Collins available and asking price is a starter + FRP:
First, Powell to Rockets for Theis, filler and a FRP



Then package CJ ,Roco and FRP for Collins and Bogdanovic


Finally, Nance to Pacers for Warren


You run with
Dame, Smith
Bogdanovic, Ant, Elleby
Little, Warren
Collins, Watford, Garuba
Nurk, Theis


We get under the luxury tax for this year. Warren is expiring so we have money to re-sign Ant and Theis is a good insurance policy in case Nurk bolts.

 

Interesting that Hollinger's projection of the first two trades has everyone getting worse, sometimes significantly so....lol.

 

From Fischer. God, I hope we don't become buyers. It really sounds like they want to dodge the tax AND make the playoffs.

 

I still think Dallas will trade Porzingis. Maybe a deal CJ & Cov for Porz & some?

 

If we get a couple of picks, I'd be all over this. The Hayes part might be viewed as a plus in that the team might think they could get out of the contract altogether on misconduct grounds. Hart is a very solid player and the rest are just to make up weight. I am skeptical that New Orleans really wants CJ, though. Why? A last ditch effort to convince Williamson that they're serious about contending so could he please stop eating himself out of the league?