The 2022 Trade Idea Thread, now with more urgency!

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  1. Predator

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    If we are trading CJ AND Norm, it better not be for a 3rd fucking guard.
    you did read my next post stating my whole assertion was that the “main piece of the trade [we receive] should be at least 6’7”, right?

    i don’t care if we get a *guard* back, but that better be 10% of the trade value where the other 90% is a front court player worth a damn.
     
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    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

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    Bro. If John Wall and Westbrook have been traded, CJ can be traded. Stop kidding yourself. There were even reports that Simmons would be traded for CJ and three firsts that we turned down. He isn't untradeable. Olshey just overvalued him.

    They haven't won together. A participation trophy isn't winning.

    Klay isn't CJ. He was a billion times better until he got hurt.
     
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    Speak for yourself. I wouldn't forget a championship. I would attend the parade.

    Morey offered Simmons for CJ and three firsts is what the rumor was. We turned it down. Not as untradeable as you think. Pelicans rumored to want him. Again. Not as untradeable as you think.
     
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    I wasn't alive. I've told you that a million times.
     
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    Yes you do. Watching it on the internet is not the same as being there at the parade. Not even close.
     
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    instant gratification? What an idiotic statement. I've been a fan for 30+ years.
     
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  7. BoomChakaLaka

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    Stats are in favor of Ant now and look at FG% as well.

    key for me is watching Ant maturing in front of our eyes…CJ’s been dribbling around for years

    :cheers:
     
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    Calling something you said idiotic is not a personal insult.

    Watching a concert on the tv is not the same as seeing it live.
     
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    i think CJ gets traded by the deadline. I think RoCo goes too….different deals would be my guess.

    Personally I’d be happy to see Nurk get traded but I will predict he re-signs this Summer
     
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    Bro, you said this generation is instant gratification now. I've been a fan for 30+ years. That is not instant gratification wanting a championship. That wasn't a personal insult. You can criticize a post.

    Expecting a different outcome after multiple years with our backcourt and still expecting different results is boring.

    Smoke a joint and relax.
     
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    Boating on the Willamette is one of my most favorite past times. If I was a millionaire that's where I'd live! PS we should be friends (real life).
     
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    CJ - 26 pts 3 reb 5 ast 50% / 44% 3’s

    Ant - 27 pts 3 reb 6 ast 65%!! / 56% 3’s
    (312 fewer dribbles)

    LOL :chestbump:
     
  13. Wizard Mentor

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    CJ is an amazing player when his shots come in the flow of the offense - not when he's the focal point.
    Ant the TankKiller.
     
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    Ant handles the ball and is the point. CJ doesn’t turn the ball over…he’s too busy dribbling with himself

    :biglaugh:
     
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    hmmmm, CJ NEVER gets shots from “the flow” only when he’s dribbling around and creates his own shot. In my opinion of course
     
  16. PtldPlatypus

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    People do want instant gratification, but that has nothing to do with people wanting to feel the euphoria of living through their team winning a title. It had do so with experiencing things for yourself rather than vicariously through another's life.
     
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    Nah. 100% disagree. If you weren't alive for it, it means way less. That's just human.

    Like omg the Oregon ducks won the national championship back in the 60s.

    Means nothing but a mere "oh cool." Unless you were there. We can "say" it. But the feeling is WAY different from someone who got to experience rather than just know it as a historical footnote. That's not even up for debate. It's just how it works as human beings.
     
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    There are questions that need to be answered. The first question is are we trying to win big with Dame? The resounding answer from the organization has been yes. Then you ask yourself if this roster is even close to having the potential to win big with Dame and when I say that I mean win a title. The answer is no. So every player that isn't Dame should be being shopped right now.

    Ant's value has to be really high right now, CJ's value may not be getting an all star back in return but it's positive and we should get what we can for him, RoCo by almost every report is gone, Nurk could be a piece that wins big with Dame but if you can get good value right now without paying him in the off season you do it and Norm should have solid value too.

    If Dame is who we want to win with our future picks have very little value to us in achieving that so use Larry or RoCo both of whom should be attractive to the Bulls to get our pick back and free up all of our future firsts and use as many of them as needed. Combine these pieces to get two all star level players that complement Dame, don't worry today about the depth around them.

    There is another way. You build around Ant and sell all off our other players for young prospects and picks... then trade Dame next season after he's proven that he's still Dame... or to a team that doesn't need the proof trade him right now. You can't have it both ways because if you start next season with Ant off the bench or starting next to Dame, Ant will look worse and his trade value will go down, not to mention we have no idea how much he will be making and how that will impact his trade value but I don't forecast it's going to increase it.
     
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    On at least 2 occasions tonight: Nurk passes out of double team - pass, pass, pass to CJ - cans open 3.
     
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    I've been a die hard fan since I was eight. I have the Pistons and Bulls finals on VHS... I don't have a VCR but keep them for the sake of nostalgia. If we would have won the Pistons finals because lets face it we weren't beating MJ, I would still be starving for another legitimate shot at a championship... starving! When I say a legitimate shot I mean being in a competitive finals. We have to get there and that has to be the organizations only goal, as a fan there really can't be any other goal. I don't understand just wanting to make the playoffs or have a team whose ceiling is advancing but not winning it all.

    If Dame is not the guy to get us there, we have to build around Ant and trade Dame. If Dame with other all star help could get us there then trade every fucking asset we have to get him other all star help and use the MLE and the huge number of talented specialist players that will sign for the minimum to get us the rest of the way there.

    Disclaimer: I love being a Blazers fan when the results are underwhelming or downright hurt but being a true Blazers fan means needing us to win it all. If anything else feels good to you, I just don't know what to tell you.
     
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