The 2022 Trade Idea Thread, now with more urgency!

I really think with the report that the Pelicans are also interested in RoCo that we could really get a huge haul from them for CJ and RoCo. @Rastapopoulos had suggested a trade where CJ is sent to NOLA for Hart, Hayes, Satoransky and two Lakers first round picks that the Pelicans hold the rights to, he also had them sending us a second in that trade idea which I thought was probably something that would have to be left off in order to get the deal done but I thought the players and 2 firsts wasn't really far fetched at all considering that the reports have said that the Pelicans view CJ as being the missing piece that could complement what they already have. If they also want RoCo I think we could definitely be looking at acquiring those three players and three first rounders (Lakers 2022, 2024 and Bucks 2024) and probably even one of the many second round picks that the Pelicans can't be planning on using all of.

If Morey wants to try and win a championship this season and have the pieces that it would take to land Harden in a sign and trade in the off season I think he would have to seriously consider doing this because I think with the picks in this deal and Tobias Harris's contract they could definitely get the Nets to agree to a sign and trade for Harden. Harden, Norm, Thybulle, Larry, Embiid, Seth, Maxey and everything else they have coming off the bench would definitely be a contender for a while.


For us this deal would most likely mean a followup trade that sent Nurk to the highest bidder and playing this season out with Ant, Hart, Elleby (just to see what he could do with the role), Simmons and Hayes starting DSJ, BennyMac, Trendon and whatever Nurk yields off of the bench or possibly starting at SF instead of Elleby.

Then again I can't help wondering just how valuable Ant might be right now to a team like Boston. So I ask myself if we could do something like this (the trade with Boston and Toronto would be separate after the above trade but because of pieces from the first trade I just put them all together below). The Celtics would likely need to buyout Satoransky and do something with Fernando but if they value Ant as an all star level player right now like he's been playing with a much higher ceiling, it might make sense. Obviously this one is longer shot but the Celtics have to be looking to change things up and this does that and saves them money.

 

RoCo definitely fits into that TPE if you try it yourself on fanspo, you can click on the slashed out $ with TE under it and it explains it to you.

 

Wasn't fanspo the one that had everyone believing Norman Powell couldn't be traded until march?

 

Holy shit... you can just google largest nba trade exceptions and the info would just pop up in front of your face.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/08/largest-trade-exceptions-created-this-offseason.html

 

Over react much? Jeez, it was meant as a joke.

 

Pretty sure that was Dallas that had a 10.8 million TPE that he wouldn't fit in to.

 

Great. Then I would just trade them Roco for the TPE and CJ, Snell, Zeller and Mac for Hart, Satoransky, Hayes and Jones. That's more than fair for them, so i would like a draft pick also. I would insist on Jones and I think they would do it; he is still not a proven commodity.

 

hes never been on the same level as lebron james, kevin durant, steph curry, giannis antetokounmpo, kawhi leonard, nikola jokic

as good as dame is, these guys are just on a different level, they are superstars

 

If I couldn't get any traction with Morey in regards to Simmons I would definitely see what the most I could get out of NOLA for CJ and RoCo. If I got enough I might try to flip some of that and other assets of ours to the Knicks for Randle. I would make the agreements for the trades individually and the Toronto trade could just be pulled off by itself but in order to get the Knicks the savings that the trade gives them, there would have to be a three team trade between us, the Knicks and Pelicans. Here they are, all together. The trade fails but as of tomorrow it can go through.


I like Julius Randle but I would want him as our third option so I would make this trade as well.

 

Ugh. Trade deadline needs to get here quick.

 

Our green as goose shit GM won’t do anything meaningful.

 

that way we'll know sooner what Cronin intends to do. My guess:

 

I don't think that a guy can be considered green that's been in this front office for 15 years and has been an assistant GM for a while now, under a guy like Olshey who I assume delegated a lot of responsibilities besides taking other people's work to the Vulcans for the final say so and credit. Cronin was one of those other people doing work.

I'm not going to be surprised if the trade deadline comes and goes and very little has changed but I will be a little confused. Unless the Vulcans have told Cronin not to do anything, he should be doing everything he can to prove himself. Maybe the mother ship has told him that there's no rush and that he has through this off season to show what he can do but again that would be confusing because this team is shit but it's not shitty enough to get a big difference maker in the draft. So logically there should be big moves during this next week and most likely about a week from right now.

 

I think RoCo at the very least is gone. Probably Nurkic too. I don’t think we want to remain above the lux tax with such a shitty team.

 

prepare to be confused....keep in mind Seattle doesn't give a shit as long cash keeps flowing.

 

I get why the team doing zero is your guess and due to Cronin having been part of Olshey's front office and Olshey having done very little when so much was needed, I'm with you. That being said, so much change is needed. Getting the fourteenth pick or swept out of the first round again and left without a pick cannot be desirable outcomes for an interim GM who has put in his time, to say the least... and that's where we're headed. Larry will get healthy again soon and that will be just enough for us to start winning these games against these bad teams and still won't be enough for us to win games against good teams. So we'll hover around ten games under .500 which will put us in the play ins with this roster capable of winning a couple of games against other middling squads to squeak into the playoffs but not capable of beating any playoff team in a seven game series.

Dame might seem patient right now but if by the end of the season the team has done nothing to improve after all of his talk about urgency, it would almost be incumbent upon him to either demand a trade or more likely raise hell again... which is a bad look for the franchise and could cause other teams and free agents not to engage with us in attempts to get better.

I'm not holding my breath for big moves but the outcome that would make sense from the point of view of an interim GM trying to show that he can succeed, would be a lot of action. This roster doesn't fit together and is constantly delivering less than the sum of their talent and skill. Moves are what would make sense if there is any of the sense of urgency that Dame demanded but then again we got here by doing as little as possible for a decade so I guess we'll wait and see what wins the day, inertia or common sense.

 

Right, they don't give a shit but Cronin probably does. You would think that a guy who spent his life as a basketball player and basketball mind but also an underdog would have some competitive fire. You would think with the fact that he has no guarantees that he will get to keep this job or ever really actually have the title of GM, he would be chomping at the bit to prove what he can do. There are a ton of moves that would improve this roster or position us to start a quick rebuild and better tank... all of which would save Seattle money and reinvigorate the fan base who seem listless right now, which would result in greater cash flow.

Again I get it, we've all watched ten fucking years of a game of doing as little as possible and then claiming mediocre results as great success. I get that Cronin was part of the front office that continually did that. I just don't understand someone finally getting the opportunity of a lifetime (that merely due to his title of interim could be snatched away from him at any time) not taking full advantage of that opportunity. I don't think biding his time to pounce when the moment is right is taking full advantage. I would think that doing what he can as soon as he can to show tangible results of whatever his vision is for the future of this roster would result in a better chance at securing his future.

 

I really like Herb Jones out of NO and think he the type of player Portland should be after. I really like what Toronto is doing with a lot of long interchangeable pieces and looking back the best players that were built around Dame were long defenders at the wing. Whether it was Matthew’s and Batum or Harless and Aminu, those teams were built to support Dame’s weaknesses.

I think a very fast rebuild can be accomplished if Portland can just muster to be bad for the remainder of this season. I would look to move a lot of veterans and the team I would target is NO. They have the necessary TE’s and filler that would work for both teams. Add in Toronto to move along some salary for an expiring Dragic and a first and Portland is in great shape for the summer salary wise and multiple picks. Lots of options moving forward to move on a available top 30 player if they become available.