The 2022 Trade Idea Thread, now with more urgency!

We definitely not getting 3 1st round picks back for those guys

 

I like your thinking...

Dame/Brown/Hart/Randle/Hayes going forward

Bench- Schroeder, McLemore, Watford, Hart*, Precious

*Nas replaces Hart in starting lineup when he comes back.

 

I am way onboard with getting Herb Jones. I also like Toronto as a potential trading partner. I have Zero interest in Dragic unless there is something major Im missing. It just seems like NOP and Toronto both are getting the better end of the deal. If we got Hart and Dragic somehow went to NOP instead and then Nance instead went to Toronto Id like it a lot better. I went with your trade and tinkered a bit.

Here's what I came up with, now mind you I would still try for Simmons and/or Simmons +Jaylen Brown (the dream trade Blazerkor proposes) before this, but I like this quite a lot. The two draft picks are very tradeable assets and who knows that team looks like it could completely collapse. LeBron is willing it into the playoffs, but maybe not, and what if he gets hurt? He's not immortal. Anyways, those picks from LAL are quite nice in the sense you can move them with other assets in other trades. Having Boucher as a backup PF/Smallball Center is nice and he could even replace Nurk in a pinch if we wanted to trade Nurk for someone else. After this trade and with Nas still on the team we would have our forward rotation well and truly solved with precisely what we need 3-D guys. We also would have another backup guard in Temple on a reasonable contract. Boucher would really help as a stretch 4 and I could see Herb Jones and Anunoby holding the rest of the wing rotation. You could even go really big and play Nassir at the 2 at times. Once we have time to evaluate we can keep the guys we want and trade the odd men out all of who would be eminently tradeable. I think this trade greatly shores up the wings and front court and gives us lots of flexibility going forward.

 

I just think Morey won't budge and will continue to be stingy. It's rather unfortunate. I've counted them out as a trade partner.

 

It depends on how bad NOLA wants them. If CJ is the final piece to their puzzle he's by far much much better than RoCo was when we picked him up and we were willing to over pay at our best three and D guy and 2 first round picks and we weren't pick rich like the Pelicans are. So the Pelicans giving us one role player that is valuable to them in Hart, one they don't value as much in Hayes and then we take an expiring contract from them that has no value at all in Satoansky. It makes sense that they would also give two firsts given their glut of picks.

CJ is constantly mentioned as one of the best guys not to have made an all star team and when people say that they mean one of the best guys that will never deserve to be on an all star team. He's just an incredibly elite scorer, with excellent ball handling and underutilized high level passing ability. He has a skill set commensurate with the value I'm saying the Pelicans would be willing to pay. RoCo's really hasn't fallen off from when we got him. He is still one of the most disruptive defenders in the game and he's shooting the three quite a bit better than he was the season that we picked him up. At his age he still might not be worth enough to garner part of the talent the Pelicans are giving and a first but then you consider demand because there are like 7 teams that want this guy right now.

So the Pelicans get the most elite non all star scorer in the league who everyone knows could be a very good facilitator and has been when he's been called on to and they get the most in demand three and D forward right now. They give up players they don't really need and draft picks that they are swimming in.

I don't think we'll have to worry because I'm leaning way further towards us ending up very inactive despite the fact that we have a guy who is auditioning for a position that there are only 30 of in the entire world. My gut is just telling me that outside of Olshey there was no turnover from a group that has consistently done the very least possible to be able to claim that they are improving our team. Olshey couldn't have been the only risk averse person in that front office or at least he likely wasn't. So we probably will find out if I'm right about RoCo and I think we'll end up with a first rounder from trading him and if the Pelicans want him we'll likely not take back matching salary which means they'll have to use their big TPE and send us the only player on their roster that fits into our TPE. So:



That's my realist/pessimist idea of what our trade deadline movement will look like.

 

Same!

Spoiler: PROOF

 

Problem is, the Pelicans only get the Lakers 2022 pick if it's between 1-10. It'd be very unlikely to convey to us.

 

To be honest if they got CJ, DJJ and three first rounders he wouldn't be budging. Everyone would know that it's an overpay because of how much of a fit CJ is for them and Morey could say that he held his ground and won. He got a player that makes his team undoubtedly better, he got a decent role player on an expiring contract and he get the three first round picks that reports say he had demanded from us.

I don't think our front office likes Simmons enough to overpay and if there's any holdover from Olshey's attitude, winning a trade means as much as if the trade improves the team.

So I think there are a couple of ways we could get Simmons but I don't think that we will. I agree that it's unfortunate because Dame hasn't sniffed playing with a guy with so many elite skills and out of this world elite size and athleticism.

 

Yeah I don't even know how they could trade that pick without things getting really complicated but they can trade the Lakers 2023 first and any of their three 2024 firsts.

 

I wasn't aware of the Lakers protection I missed that. So yes substitute one of their picks instead.

 

Anything where we get OG, Herbster and a couple 1st round picks....I'm quite happy with. Please wish this into existence.

 

That's pretty complicated. I think Toronto really values Anunoby and that trade would unbalance them.

 

I just don’t see how they would give up herb Jones. He’s a young mikal bridges who is arguably better than Mikal was as a rookie. But man it would be sweet.

 

I think they are going to want to keep OG as well, but they do have some duplication in their front court. They have no real center. Siakam is being forced to play a lot of center (which he isn't thrilled with) so that Barnes and OG can play PF/SF. Neither is really a PF as of yet, so there are 2 players, albeit good ones, that are a bit out of position. They would like a real center and have some interest in Nurkic but are trying to figure out if they should make a move for him now or think they might be able to get him in FA'cy given their cap situation.

 

Hate to break it to you people but we are not getting Herb Jones. Sorry.

In fact, I highly doubt if New Orleans ends up trading for CJ. It just doesn't make sense for them.

 

Agree on the Jones part. 50/50 on the CJ to Pels part. They badly need a bucket getter and 3-pt shooter, which CJ is. They also need to do something to improve their roster to at least attempt to get Zion to stay. But there has been so much 'noise' about this, often times, those don't play out.

 

God I would be annoyed if I was a Philly fan.

 

on the contrary, if you read their subreddit, they all buy his nonsense and defend him incessantly

 

After being around .500 for much of the season, they've gone on a massive tear. If they start losing again, I doubt the Philly fans will be patient.
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