Trade CJ McCollum to New Orleans

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  1. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    If we wanted a 20M trade exception couldn't we just toss Zeller into the deal? I mean we have to waive him anyways to even complete the deal in the first place.
     
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    We're taking in less than we sent out. That's always OK. So since we sent out CJ, received Sato, and all other pieces of the deal are accounted for separately, the CJ for Sato swap generates a giant TPE.
     
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    Pels probably don't want to pay him.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    CJ for Sato is an illegal trade. You can't trade 10M for 30M.
     
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    WHOA

     
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    This was my first thought too!!
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    New Orleans is not under the cap. They have to abide by the 125% rule. Sato makes 10M. CJ 30M. You can't toss the 20M TPE they have into the deal, it can't be combined with other players (ie. SATO)
     
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    What a lateral trade for Sac and Indiana.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Double Jeremy Lambs. Indiana pulling some wizardry.
     
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    Now THAT is a good haul.
     
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    Jeremy Lamb has a clone?
     
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    I love Haliburton, but think that's terrific for SAC. This prolly means any Turner deals aren't happening.
     
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    On our end, it's us sending out 30M for 10M, which is absolutely OK.

    On the Pels end, they show it as Sato/Hart/NAW/Louzada for CJ, and then Nance/Snell into an existing TPE.

    The deal doesn't have to be accounted for identically on both ends, as long as it works in some permutation on both sides.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Feb 8, 2022
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    Where did Woj say anything about banking on free agents?
     
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    Does that not generate two TPEs and not a singular one?
     
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    TPE's aren't "exchanged". They aren't "tossing a TPE into the deal". They have a TPE, and are using it to bring in Nance and Snell.

    Separately (but simultaneously), we are generating a TPE by dealing CJ and only offsetting him with Sato.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Feb 8, 2022
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    It's legal for us. You can always send out more $$. Like I said, each team can construct the deal any way they like. So we do it that way, and new Orleans does the 125% way.
     
    RR7, Feb 8, 2022
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    Perhaps, but Paul actually enjoyed watching basketball and had every incentive to keep the team as and where it was. I'm sure he knew that Jody didn't share that passion, so it's not inconceivable that he shaped that portion of the trust with her interests in mind.

    I'm not even saying I buy it, but the only logical conclusion I can see from this week's trades is a fire sale in preparation for new ownership. And new ownership is at least 50% likely to want to relocate.
     
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    It doesn't, because from our perspective, the TPE is simply generated by the difference in contract values between CJ and Sato.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Feb 8, 2022
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    Sabonis is going to the Kings!

    Shit, even the Kings are doing bigger things than us! Sad, sad day to be a Blazers fan.
     
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