Re-signing Nurkic: How Much is Too Much?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by wizenheimer, Feb 9, 2022.

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How much for Nurkic?

  1. 12M and under; 3 years max

    12 vote(s)
    22.2%
  2. 12M and under; 4 years

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  3. 12-15M; 3 years max

    27 vote(s)
    50.0%
  4. 12-15M; 4 years

    3 vote(s)
    5.6%
  5. 15-20M; 3 years max

    8 vote(s)
    14.8%
  6. 15-20M; 4 years

    4 vote(s)
    7.4%
  7. Over 20M; are you nuts?

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  1. Idog1976

    Idog1976 Well-Known Member

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    Throw in some of our picks and go for Siakam. Hahaha yeah right. :(
     
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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    I would be doing everything I could to trade him right now. His inconsistency is a nonstarter, his propensity for injuries is another nonstarter and what people in here are saying about what he'll probably get paid is accurate and that's the biggest reason I would trade him. We have to pay around 15M a year for a guy who has a bad attitude off and on, refuses to play offense in a way that makes sense and has a long injury history... no thanks.
     
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    Blazinaway Well-Known Member

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    4 yrs 50 mil my max and yr 4 team option
     
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    Ripcity4life77 Well-Known Member

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    If I was the GM the deal i would offer Nurk is :

    2yr 30 Million plus 1 yr team option for 15 to 17m

    This is the max i would offer him atm plain and simple
     
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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    Toronto is supposedly high on Nurk, no pun intended, so Boucher is an OK starting point but it would have to be Boucher who we would probably let walk, Achiuwa who we would keep and hopefully a fucking first round pick but the way things have been going it will be a future second. We clear 9M more in cap space, we get another cheap young prospect and we get a draft asset.

    I just think Nurk is such an old school C besides his great passing which he overestimates and gets him into trouble, that it makes no sense paying him 15M a season when you can probably get a guy that does a lot of the same things for less money or draft a guy like Orlando Robinson who has been playing college ball at a high level for three years, is big and tough in the post, blocks shots and hits threes.
     
  6. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    I tend to agree, although:

    Jonas Valančiūnas $14,000,000 $14,700,000
    Christian Wood $13,666,667 $14,317,459
    Dwight Powell $11,000,000 $11,814,815
    Richaun Holmes $10,384,500 $11,215,260 $12,046,020
    Montrezl Harrell $9,720,900
    Tristan Thompson $9,720,900
    Nerlens Noel $8,800,000 $9,240,000
    Jakob Poeltl $8,750,000 $9,398,148
    Maxi Kleber $8,750,000 $9,000,000
    Mason Plumlee $8,137,500 $8,525,000
    DeAndre Jordan $10,517,224 $7,827,907
    Ivica Zubac $7,518,518 $7,518,518
    Zach Collins $6,984,127 $7,333,333
    Kevon Looney $5,178,572
    JaVale McGee $5,000,000
    Robin Lopez $5,000,000
    Bobby Portis $4,347,600 $4,564,980
    Gorgui Dieng $4,000,000
    Boban Marjanović $3,500,000 $3,500,000
    Dewayne Dedmon $2,866,667 $2,866,667
    Dwight Howard $2,641,691
    LaMarcus Aldridge $2,641,691
    Enes Freedom $2,641,691
    Ed Davis $2,641,691
    Hassan Whiteside $2,401,537
    Andre Drummond $2,401,537
    Frank Kaminsky $2,089,448
    Nemanja Bjelica $2,089,448

    obviously, Nurk is better than most of those, although not as durable. But is he really worth 3 times as much as Robin Lopez and 5 times as much as Enes or Drummond?

    on the free market, would Nurkic really get much more than the MLE? Toronto won't have more than an MLE. If Detroit offers him 20M should the Blazer try and beat that
     
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    That is where I'm at exactly.
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    If Boucher was part of it and he wanted to play here for a couple years and it was reasonable Id sign him. He is a decent down low defender.
     
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    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that is a good list. Thanks.
    I was looking at this year's list of unrestricted center free agents and I was thinking because it was limited that it would drive his stock up.
     
  10. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    you also have to look at scheduled guaranteed payrolls vs a projected 121M salary cap:

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    * Toronto, who is rumored to like Nurkic, only has 9 players signed leaving them less than 9M in space. That doesn't count the cap-hold for Boucher, their 1st round pick, or roster charge(s)

    * Kings just traded for Sabonis - NO

    * Minnesota has KAT - NO

    * OKC is a threat, I guess; they don't really have a solid option at C - Maybe

    * Chicago has Vucevic' - NO

    * Memphis has Steven Adams - NO

    * Indiana has reportedly chosen Myles Turner over Sabonis - Likely NO

    * Spurs have Poeltl and Zach - Likely NO

    * Detroit has almost nobody at C and are supposedly interested - biggest threat

    * Orlando has Wendall Carter and Bamba (UFA) - Likely NO

    really, I only see Detroit as the threat here and I think it would be a terrible idea for Portland to get into a bidding war with a team that could have 25M in cap-space
     
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    I'd much rather have Powell than Nurkic.
     
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    After Dame and CJ's fat contracts and calling them + Nurk big3, I imagine he isn't thinking 12.
     
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    Welp. No trade so we must sign him to a friendly contract. Cant let him walk for nothing.
     
  14. boredinsalem

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    I think he'd be a great fit for how Chauncey wants to play. Great character guy too. Maybe if the pairing of him and Sabas doesn't work out we could deal with the Kings this offseason.
     
  15. Hoopguru

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    When he played last night I figured he wasnt going to be traded.
     
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    playing where

    you dont give up on little or simons for fucking powell lol
     
  17. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'm no cap expert, but I'd say $200 trillion/year for 199 years is too much.

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  18. Mr. Robot

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    i see max contract in his future
     
  19. GrandpaBlaze

    GrandpaBlaze Predictions Game Master

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    Is “max contract” anything like Max Headroom?
     
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    Your post is stupid as $hit.
     

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