Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The same could have been said about Hitler 80 years ago.
     
  2. Hoopguru

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    Yeah, Puppet gov for a buffer between Russia and NATO.
     
  3. donkiez

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    took me years to like them after the sweater song and Buddy Holly, now they are one of my favorites. Cant believe I let those songs get to me... I even like those songs now sort of.
     
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  4. Chris Craig

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    You want him to send in soldiers
     
  5. ABM

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    I want a blitzkrieg of swift and severe sanctions across the board, involving EVERY NATO country, and not this crap of checking back in a month. (It was just the way he said that that made me cringe.)

    I really hate it that Germany (and other European countries) relies so much on Russian oil. Creating less dependence is highly problematic. Although, we should open some more of our own spigots as to help out at home.
     
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    I think military support should be seriously considered. The sanctions are just going to make them more desperate.
     
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    If you think that then you're simply not paying attention. I would suggest paying attention.
     
  8. ABM

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    He should have been beating down NATO's doors well before this. It's not like it was a super secret.
     
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    These stories about people complaining about gas prices are hilarious. As if they dont understand how connected the global economy is.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    He wants to just do the opposite of whatever Joe decides. These trumpers have no critical thought of anything except "owning liberals"
     
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  12. Stevenson

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    Thats a complete misreading of history. The invasion of Poland was a warning shot across the bow, as was the annexation of the Sudatenland. They were never part of German history. Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union.
     
  13. Chris Craig

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    It's a strategic issue. Putin is gaining a stronger foothold in Asia and Europe. He will keep expanding. It won't end with Ukraine. Where will he go next? How strong should we let Russia become?

    It is in our interest to impede Russia's further gain of strength. They already just got a stronger foothold in the middle east after we left and now this.

    Should we just let him rebuild the USSR?
     
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    Man I hate answers like this. "Paying attention." I have a masters in public policy and a B.A in international studies. I pay attention. That's not the issue.

    The issue is, as much as I like Ukraine - I had 2 grandparents that were born there - it is not a country America needs to fight or die for. It is not a NATO country. It is not a strategic resource.
     
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    I agree lines should be drawn, but Ukraine isn't the line. NATO's eastern axis - Poland, Hungary, and Czech, are the line.
     
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    Trump would have probably just allowed Putin to take Ukraine. They would be cheering him for it.

    Trump claims this would have never happened if he were president. BS. If Trump was Prez and sent in troops, they would be praising him, for the very thing they are accusing Biden of (which he hasn't done) and shitting their collective pants over it.

    They are going to bitch at whatever Biden does any of which they would be praising Trump for doing.
     
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    We can just wait until he gets there.
     
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    Yep, and he wants Ukraine as a buffer.
     
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    Would you send YOUR son to fight Russians in Kiev? Would you, @ABM?
     
  20. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Would you have said the same thing in 1939?
     
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